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8. PS3 vs. Xbox360 vs. Wii
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GiantCrab
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Nerazar schrieb:Pacman schrieb:@Chrischie:
lt. Ken Kutaragi werden ab Ende November 100.000 p. Woche hergestellt!
Er ist keine gute Quelle, unser Krazy Ken.
Bei mir ists ultrapraktisch.
Ein Freund holt die PS3 zum Launch;
Ich hole mir den Wii zum Launch;
Ein anderer Freund / evtl. Ich holt/hole ne 360.
Muha, MultiConnection NextGenMultiConsoleiring!
Bei mir siehts ähnlich aus, ein kumpel nebenan holt sich Wii+PS3 und einen HD Beamer, denn die alten Mieter sind ausgezogen und jetzt ist ein riesiger raum leer!!! muah! :grin4: :grin4: :grin4: :grin4: :grin4: :grin4:
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Na, ich habe mit der Xbox 360 (Gears of War, Mass Effect, LO, Blue Dragon), dem Wii (Zelda, Mario, Metroid) und der PS2 (FF XII, Rogue Galaxy, GoW 2) noch soviel Auswahl an hervorragenden Spielen, dass ich mir mit dem Kauf der PS3 laaange Zeit lassen kann .
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GiantCrab
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schleimkeim schrieb:
Zeig mir den PC, welcher 1080p HD videos geschmeidig von einer HD-DVD abspielen kann!
Jinpachi
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Azash schrieb:Na, ich habe mit der Xbox 360 (Gears of War, Mass Effect, LO, Blue Dragon), dem Wii (Zelda, Mario, Metroid) und der PS2 (FF XII, Rogue Galaxy, GoW 2) noch soviel Auswahl an hervorragenden Spielen, dass ich mir mit dem Kauf der PS3 laaange Zeit lassen kann
dito auch meine imo und bald die erscheinende Massenvernichtungswaffe Halo3, die die Ps3 wie ein unschuldiges Huhn rupfen wird
wer will schon ne Ps3 mit fehler und downgradeten spiele.
wo grade Microsoft zeigt wo der Hase läuft, darauf scheiss auf namen ^^
GiantCrab
L16: Sensei
Jinpachi schrieb:Azash schrieb:Na, ich habe mit der Xbox 360 (Gears of War, Mass Effect, LO, Blue Dragon), dem Wii (Zelda, Mario, Metroid) und der PS2 (FF XII, Rogue Galaxy, GoW 2) noch soviel Auswahl an hervorragenden Spielen, dass ich mir mit dem Kauf der PS3 laaange Zeit lassen kann
dito auch meine imo
wer will schon ne Ps3 mit fehler und downgradeten spiele.
wo grade Microsoft zeigt wo der Hase läuft, darauf scheiss auf namen ^^
Hat shou dein Passwort erraten?
Wieso sind die Spiele downgegrated? :-?
Dacey
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Jinpachi schrieb:Azash schrieb:Na, ich habe mit der Xbox 360 (Gears of War, Mass Effect, LO, Blue Dragon), dem Wii (Zelda, Mario, Metroid) und der PS2 (FF XII, Rogue Galaxy, GoW 2) noch soviel Auswahl an hervorragenden Spielen, dass ich mir mit dem Kauf der PS3 laaange Zeit lassen kann
dito auch meine imo und bald die erscheinende Massenvernichtungswaffe Halo3, die die Ps3 wie ein unschuldiges Huhn rupfen wird
wer will schon ne Ps3 mit fehler und downgradeten spiele.
wo grade Microsoft zeigt wo der Hase läuft, darauf scheiss auf namen ^^
WorD !
Hazuki
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Darji schrieb:
WElches Spiel hat denn Fehler? Und nenne nicht RR/ da dies auch an einer defekten Kosnole liegen kann. Es gibt keine Berichte üer irgendein verbuggtes Spiel, wie man es bei 360 Titeln schon 1 tag nach dem release zu hören bekommt
Das liegt aber auch an den "immer für sich" bleibenden Japanern , warte mal den US Launch ab da kommen genau die gleichen Berichte :wink2:
Nasg1
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Darji schrieb:
Finde das Region Free-Feature der PS3 einen hervorragenden Service, den Microsoft und Nintendo ruhig mal übernehmen sollen (Nintendo zumindest bei den Spielen für die Virtual Console) ...
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PlayStation Network: the good, bad, and UGLY?
The GOOD
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Even a cursory look at the XMB reveals that Sony has put a lot of thought into the design. The interface is sleek and simple to use. The XMB lays out all of PS3s most anticipated features the PS3 in easily accessible buttons: Videos, Music, Photos, Games, etc. The media bar also provides all the standard functionality of a friends list, allowing you to send messages, add friends, and so on. Unfortunately, the media bar cannot currently be accessed from within any game.
EDI is not just a place for game developers to regurgitate old titles with slightly retooled graphics, nor just a dumping ground for casual games. It is a honest attempt at creating a space for indie games in the console world. EDI has been quietly working with a number of teams to come out with smaller scale games which would benefit from such an approach (about 40 exclusive titles). One has to only look as far as David Jaffes latest offering to contemplate the possibilities of such a system. Yes, Sony still has a long way to go to fulfill the potential of EDI, but what weve seen so far is very promising.
The BAD
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The fact is, in its quest to surpass Microsofts Xbox Live service, Sony may have overlooked the most fundamental reason for online connectivity: playing online games with others. Sony has carefully avoided all discussion on this topic, save for mentioning that Resistance: Fall of Man will support 40 players. The developers themselves are the only ones to have made any comments on the service provided. Resistance will offer up a full suite of online support, including its own buddy list, clan registry, in-game messaging and chat services. This is unfortunately damning for Sony as none of the PlayStation Networks functionality is integrated into the game. The games buddy list, and Sonys are two completely distinct entities.
The reality is that the friends list support that Sony have provided in their libraries is terrible. From within a game, you are notified when your friends sign on and sign off (with a nice translucent overlay) and thats about it. Developers have no way of interfacing with this list in any useful manner. You cant find out if your friends are watching a movie, surfing the net or playing another game. If you send them an invite, you have to hope they sign on to the same game youre playing before theyll even see it. Furthermore, there is currently no functionality to even accept the invite. Its just a message to come join a game; it wont actually take you to the game. Developers have to deal with that problem themselves.
and the FUD gets worse and worse from there....no standard voice supposrt, no standard online store support yadaaa....
The UGLY
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The problem remains that the PS3 is a difficult console to program due to the complex design of the hardware. Sony is a hardware company; its forte does not lie in software. As consequence, Sonys development tools still lag far behind Microsofts.
To compound matters further, the Sonys online support can only be described as poor to atrocious. Perhaps one day this will improve after all, the console hasnt even launched yet but right now, the situation is dire. Sony seems to have taken the usual laissez-faire approach, which is to provide rudimentary online libraries and let individual developers figure out how they want to create lobbies, provide matchmaking abilities, track online scores and records. They are providing very few tools, and very little infrastructure.
If the poor quality of the libraries wasnt enough to hinder developers, then the repeated delays would definitely drive the nail in the coffin. Sony has been so slow in providing libraries and test hardware that it is surreal that it even expects developers to release launch games with online support. Even as recently as this summer, developers had still not received access to the Sony online test servers.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128889
The GOOD
Quote:
Even a cursory look at the XMB reveals that Sony has put a lot of thought into the design. The interface is sleek and simple to use. The XMB lays out all of PS3s most anticipated features the PS3 in easily accessible buttons: Videos, Music, Photos, Games, etc. The media bar also provides all the standard functionality of a friends list, allowing you to send messages, add friends, and so on. Unfortunately, the media bar cannot currently be accessed from within any game.
EDI is not just a place for game developers to regurgitate old titles with slightly retooled graphics, nor just a dumping ground for casual games. It is a honest attempt at creating a space for indie games in the console world. EDI has been quietly working with a number of teams to come out with smaller scale games which would benefit from such an approach (about 40 exclusive titles). One has to only look as far as David Jaffes latest offering to contemplate the possibilities of such a system. Yes, Sony still has a long way to go to fulfill the potential of EDI, but what weve seen so far is very promising.
The BAD
Quote:
The fact is, in its quest to surpass Microsofts Xbox Live service, Sony may have overlooked the most fundamental reason for online connectivity: playing online games with others. Sony has carefully avoided all discussion on this topic, save for mentioning that Resistance: Fall of Man will support 40 players. The developers themselves are the only ones to have made any comments on the service provided. Resistance will offer up a full suite of online support, including its own buddy list, clan registry, in-game messaging and chat services. This is unfortunately damning for Sony as none of the PlayStation Networks functionality is integrated into the game. The games buddy list, and Sonys are two completely distinct entities.
The reality is that the friends list support that Sony have provided in their libraries is terrible. From within a game, you are notified when your friends sign on and sign off (with a nice translucent overlay) and thats about it. Developers have no way of interfacing with this list in any useful manner. You cant find out if your friends are watching a movie, surfing the net or playing another game. If you send them an invite, you have to hope they sign on to the same game youre playing before theyll even see it. Furthermore, there is currently no functionality to even accept the invite. Its just a message to come join a game; it wont actually take you to the game. Developers have to deal with that problem themselves.
and the FUD gets worse and worse from there....no standard voice supposrt, no standard online store support yadaaa....
The UGLY
Quote:
The problem remains that the PS3 is a difficult console to program due to the complex design of the hardware. Sony is a hardware company; its forte does not lie in software. As consequence, Sonys development tools still lag far behind Microsofts.
To compound matters further, the Sonys online support can only be described as poor to atrocious. Perhaps one day this will improve after all, the console hasnt even launched yet but right now, the situation is dire. Sony seems to have taken the usual laissez-faire approach, which is to provide rudimentary online libraries and let individual developers figure out how they want to create lobbies, provide matchmaking abilities, track online scores and records. They are providing very few tools, and very little infrastructure.
If the poor quality of the libraries wasnt enough to hinder developers, then the repeated delays would definitely drive the nail in the coffin. Sony has been so slow in providing libraries and test hardware that it is surreal that it even expects developers to release launch games with online support. Even as recently as this summer, developers had still not received access to the Sony online test servers.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128889
sYkoDe4d
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Azash schrieb:
z.b. Viva Pianata oder Gears of War sind regionfree und die US versionenn haben sogar alle sprachen drauf, also auch deutsch.
Wie es andere entwickler machen weis wohl keiner, bei allen konsolen :>
Nasg1
L17: Mentor
Darji schrieb:
sowas kommt nicht von einer defekten konsole. Das wird am game liegen ist halt ein bug.
Giant_Enemy_Crab schrieb:schleimkeim schrieb:
Zeig mir den PC, welcher 1080p HD videos geschmeidig von einer HD-DVD abspielen kann!
selbst wenn du den hammer duo2-prozzi hast, kannst du damit nur filme gucken. warum nicht gleich nen blu-ray-brenner kaufen?
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Bloodsight schrieb:
Wäre mir (und uns allen, denke ich mal) aber lieber, wenn es ein Standard-Feature wäre, das für ALLE Games der jeweiligen Konsolen gilt (und nicht immer nur für ein paar Ausnahmen)
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