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Microsoft to use PS3 Home for meetings

In a ironic twist of fate, one of the companies that might be testing out the PS3 Home is Microsoft. There is a project in progress with the goal of researching the viability of using the PS3 Home for holding business meetings in a virtual world in order to save time and money.

As it turns out the PS3 Home is considered to be one of the most advanced virtual environments out there. Business users can communicate via a variety of methods: Bluetooth headset, keyboard and USB headset. Users would also be able to design and develop the virtual office to meet the specific criteria of the business needs.

The PS3 Home also has multimedia capabilities that could be leveraged for business presentations such as slideshows, videos and audio sound bytes. Instead of investing in specific computer equipment and software, the only thing business users would require is a PS3 and Ethernet jack.


Apparently, Ernst & Young, a financial institute, will be the first company to test out the PS3 Home for virtual meetings. The project is headed up by Portsmouth University in an effort to cut costs and reduce travel time for corporate meetings.

Other companies participating in the project include Merrill Lynch and PS3 competitor, Microsoft. This indicates that Microsoft could potentially make some significant contributions to the success of the project.

However, such instances are not unheard of as most large businesses eventually interact with each other in one way or another. Sony manufactures PCs and laptops with Microsoft Windows. Microsoft also supports Blu-ray drives in Windows.

If the project is successful, it makes one wonder if we will see Microsoft offices crawling with PS3s. Who knows what the future holds? My company could take away my phone and hand me a PS3 instead. Wouldn’t that be something?


http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/12/31/microsoft-to-use-ps3-home-for-meetings/


da ist jeman dvon der Konkurrenz und von Home sehr überzeugt.

solche käsemeldungen gabs auch zu den blütezeiten von second life.
glaub ich im leben nicht dran. jede telko ist effektiver, als sich mit avataren zu treffen.
man kann ja auch keine präsentationen sharen o.ä.. was sollen die da? running man tanzen?


märchenstunde....
 
Naja, die Wii-Kanäle sind halt bei weitem nicht wirklich so "onlinefähig" wie Home oder das Dashboard. Klar sind bestimmte Kanäle online nutzbar, aber wirklich integriert wirkt das Ganze nicht. Bei der Wii habe ich (im Gegensatz zur Box) nicht wirklich das Gefühl, online zu sein, wenn ich einschalte.
In dieser Hinsicht ist es Geschmackssache. Ich persönlich finde es angenehm gerade deswegen, dass man nicht das Gefühl hat stets online zu sein.
Zumal es auch nicht wirklich lange dauert bis das System online ist. Sind maximal einige Sekunden und dann kann man schon surfen.
Ich empfinde dies jetzt nicht so tragisch im Gegensatz zu einem fehlenden guten I-Net-Browser.
:)

@Naco
Ist doch nichts Neues, dass Rivalen die jeweiligen Konkurrenzprodukte auf Herz und Nieren testen. Würden sie dies mit der PS3/HOME nicht tun dann würde ich mir eher Gedanken machen. Ist ein Teil des Reverse Engineering -Prozesses wenn dir das überhaupt was sagen tut. ;)
Was meinste wieviele Wii's und Xbox'en selbst in der F&E-Abteilung von Sony zu finden sein werden(und anders herum), demnach wayne. :rolleyes:
 
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Ich denke naco als Ultra Sony Fanboy wünscht sich da eher, daß in Zukunft ausgerechnet Microsoft das unausgegorene Home als Plattform für Konferenzen nutzen wird.

Die Realität ist halt nur, daß Microsoft testet (!) wie sich solche Meetings in einer virtuellen Welt abhalten lassen und dazu missbrauchen sie eben Home.
Wenn sie das mit den Meetings in einer virtuellen Welt als dolle Sache empfinden (was ich bezweifel, jeder Laptop mit Webcam ist da zehnmal besser), werden sie diese zukünftig bestimmt nicht in Home abhalten, sondern entwickeln ihre eigene kleine Welt für Geschäftsmeetings.
Eigentlich ein sehr kluger Schachzug von Microsoft, warum teuer und lange was eigenes entwickeln und erstmal testen ob es Sinn macht, wenn die Konkurrenz das doch schon gemacht hat.

Sony wird hier nur misbraucht und naco findet es total dufte. :lol:
 
Naja, manche Leute würden es auch als positive Sony-News verbuchen, wenn Angestellte von Microsoft ins Bürogebäude von Sony auf's Klo gehen, also nicht wundern. :-)
 
a ist jeman dvon der Konkurrenz und von Home sehr überzeugt.
Echt arm, an was für Strohhalme sich die Sonys dieser Tage so klammern müssen. Früher wurde aus Mücken Elefanten gemacht, heute muss man sogar die Mücken erst erfinden...

Du weißt schon, was die AWA ist, oder? Und was hier genau gemacht wird, und warum?
 
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Frage mich bei dem Thema warum zum Geier nicht die das Chanel-system des Wii bei der Umfrage mitberücksichtigt wurde. :shakehead:
Ich würde ohne Vorbehalte sofort für den Wii tippen aufgrund folgender Punkte ... :goodwork:

- die Benutzeroberfläche ist weniger verschnörkelt und übersichtlicher als bei den anderen beiden
- dies sticht insbesondere in der intuitiven Benutzung hervor, versteht jeder ob Alt oder Jung gleichermaßen
- schlanker, schneller und intuitiver I-Net-Browser (Opera), hat NXE z.B. garnicht
- übersichtlicher Wetter- und Nachrichten
- nicht überladener und selbsterklärender Aufbau, keine unnötigen/nervtötenden Features wie z.B. bei HOME

Selbstverständlich gibt es auch bei den Kanälen des Wii diversen Verbesserungspotentail.
Z.B. ... :sorry:

- hässliche Mii's im Gegensatz zu den NXE-Avataren
- kein echter Gamertag mit Score wie bei MS(bzw. Sony)
- keine HD-Auflösung

Aber im Großen und Ganzen steht der Dienst beim Wii dem der XBOX und PS in nichts nach.
:)


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einen für:

Frage mich bei dem Thema warum zum Geier nicht die das Chanel-system des Wii bei der Umfrage mitberücksichtigt wurde.
einen für:
intuitiven Benutzung
und den letzten für:
im Großen und Ganzen steht der Dienst beim Wii dem der XBOX [...] in nichts nach.
:uglygw:
 
In Sony's PS3, Home is a quiet place to hang out THE WASHINGTON POST


"Dude, this place is quiet," says one avatar, a rather generic-looking, 20-something guy as we lurk on one side of the Home central plaza, watching virtual people go by on what appears, on my TV screen, to be a sunny day in a modern town center. "This could get boring fast," texts another in agreement, a speech balloon popping up over his head.

Sony introduced a virtual world to the PlayStation 3 last month in a move designed to intrigue the gamers of the world by giving them a virtual place to mingle and hang out. Fire up Home for the first time and you can build your virtual self from scratch, selecting everything from facial features to the clothes that will cover your digital body. After that, off you go to wander around advertising-laden movie theaters, malls and bowling alleys, to meet and converse with your fellow PS3 fans.

It's possible to never spend a dime in Home, which is a free download, but Sony is hoping that users will be willing to part with a little money to spruce up their characters. The default offerings in your virtual closet are a little boring, you see, but the nearby mall allows you to spiff up your wardrobe with selections generally priced at a dollar or less. You can even spend a few bucks and buy a vacation home in Home, if the default studio apartment that you're allotted isn't stylish enough for you.



Adding virtual clubs To generate buzz for their latest titles, publishers will soon be adding their own areas to Home, as a means of showcasing their wares. Individual users, what's more, will soon be able to open their own virtual "clubs."

Jack Buser, director of the PlayStation Home project, says the new service is an effort to bring a new element of socialization to the gaming world. Most PS3 owners are online, and most use social networking sites such as Facebook, so it just makes sense, in his view, that this thing will be a hit. Buser predicts this virtual world will be regarded years from now as a "milestone in the history of video games."

This hasn't been a good year for virtual worlds, which have been in the same amount of turmoil as the real world. Google, for example, is pulling the plug on Lively, a virtual environment it launched earlier this year. And news service Reuters is shuttering a virtual bureau it had opened in the once-buzzworthy Second Life. In a farewell note posted recently, a user confessed that he found using the service "about as fun as watching paint dry."

If that's the standard, I can say that Home is totally as fun as Second Life.

As seems to be standard practice for Sony's PlayStation services, Home users can expect to have to regularly download updates before they log on to the service. Last night, I had to download version 1.03 of the Home software to take a peek in this virtual world. The next morning I had to download and install version 1.04. It only takes a minute, but it annoys. What if you had to download an update for your phone every time you wanted to make a call?

And what if your phone had less functionality after you did so?

As I fire up Home, I read that the 1.04 update has disabled the voice chat feature, which means that instead of using their voices to talk each other via headset, Home users are only able to chat via text messages. No problem if you have a USB keyboard, like me, on which you can clatter away to your heart's content. But most Home owners evidently don't, so Home is a place filled with avatars staring at each other blankly as their conversation mate laboriously composes their thought via a PS3 game controller, a process sort of like texting on a cell phone. ("U play GTA4?")



In reality, a true virtual world

During the course of a day spent in Home, my fellow avatars identify themselves as being from Louisiana, Indiana, Texas, and Ontario, Canada. One player says he's in Saudi Arabia, but who knows? This is a virtual world, after all. Though the social scene appears to be gender balanced, I'd be stunned if female hands were behind any of the game controllers.

To try to create a family-safe environment, Sony uses filtering software that converts any bad language with which you try to pollute this sunny world into asterisks. In some places, you see a lot of them, such as when I visit the virtual movie theater.

Yawn. The only thing playing here is a trailer for the vampire flick "Twilight," which runs on an endless loop. But wait, there's a fight going on in the crowd between two angry gamers! No fists are thrown - that's not one of the system software's limited options - so it's just a bunch of avatars standing around awkwardly in a heated conversation that eventually descends entirely into asterisks.

As I lurk by the plaza craving small talk, one avatar tells me optimistically that he thinks Home "has a lot of ***ential." It takes me a second to grasp, then it dawns on me that the pesky language filtering system is at work again: No marijuana references, OK people?



A recipe for good conversation?

Buser told me that he sees Home as a place where people will talk about anything from HDTVs to books, but my own non-video-game-related conversational forays go nowhere. I offer up: "Dude my 401(k) got pwned this year!" (Pwned is Web slang for brutalized.) Then: "Anybody know a good eggnog recipe?"

Feeling like a loser as the crowd ignores me, I retire to the mall to upgrade my image, investing in a snowman head and a gray business suit. Never was $1.50 better spent: On my return to the Home central plaza, I find the new appearance makes me a hit, especially with the "ladies."

"Sup Frosty!" one asks, "why aren't you melting?" I quickly win a handful of friend requests from gamers amused by the "business snowman" look. Success!

Home, at times, looks like a world of narcoleptics. People - the real ones back at home on their sofas - sometimes wander away from their game controllers, and leave their avatars standing unguarded in the virtual world. When that happens, after a few minutes their avatar appears to nod off and Z's appear over his or her head in a text bubble.

Back in the real world, a few imaginary Z's appear over my head as I consider firing up Home again the following day, but as I look at all the new "friends" listed on my PS3, I feel a bit warmer. There ain't much going on at Home yet, but who knows. A few dozen mandatory updates down the road, and this virtual world might have some ***ential.

http://www.newsday.com/business/yourmoney/ny-bztech5985384jan04,0,1154546.story
 
Vorsicht! Lasst Eure Kinder nicht in Home, Pädophile unterwegs :o

Proof Paedophiles are using HOME

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During a recent gameplayer opinion piece one of our writers recalled an anecdote of a disturbing experience that happened on HOME recently.

The snippet in question reads as follows:

"While doing some research on ‘who actually buys HOME clothing’ we happened across a fellow in a cowboy hat (who we'll call 'Jed'). After telling Jed who we were and why we were here doing research, we had an interesting discussion about why he bought the cowboy hat, and virtual belongings in general. Jed told us that he’d done up his apartment with furniture and he invited us over to see it all. Being that it was related to the conversation and the Home research we agreed.

The distant tingle of an alarm bell sounded when I materialized in Jed’s apartment. Everything was super colour-coordinated, ultra chic, and the furniture had been surgically arranged in the room (possibly with a virtual laser level). “Nice feng shui” I mumbled. “I know!” he typed back enthusiastically. It was at this point that I applied this virtual scene to its real life equivalent: I’m currently standing in a trendy house with a cowboy (who, just now, has decided to halve my personal space) and we’re talking about the sensible placement of his furniture.

Houston, we may need to abort...

Sensing an awkward lull in the conversation Jed and I discussed interests, hobbies, and ages (he 'said he was over thirty', and out of journalistic curiosity I told him that I was younger than I am. I said I was 15). This was a colossal mistake. What happened next all but confirmed the sum of all fears: “do you have a cam? I’d like to c u in the flesh” Jed asked, moving in to ‘lap dance distance’. That’s right folks, Jed-o was something of a pedo." - click here for the full story.

Interesting story, no? To be fair to HOME, we may never know for certain if Jed was in fact a mid-thirties sexual predator (or just a very disturbed/ very bored twelve year old kid lying about his age). Whatever the case, it got us to thinking; what if it was legit? Are there systems in place to stop this sort of thing happening for real?

Yes and no. Sure HOME filters out offensive words like "fuck", "shit", "but that" (which gets censored as "****hat"), and "gay" (which isn't actually offensive at all), but if you want to swear up a storm on a Bluetooth headset? No such censorship unfortunately, you can happily flick your switch to ‘Tourettes’ on that bad boy.

As to whether you're safe from deviants, the answer is similarly grey. In the case of Jed clearly we weren't, but a Gamespot forum user Modus_Operandi had a different story to tell:

"I was watching my sister testing out Home with my PSN account. She was chatting (via text) with some random guy. "What's your name," "Where you're from," "How old are you," that kind of stuff...

Well my sister is 14 and this guy says he's 21. From out of nowhere he says "wanna ****?" My sister became disgusted and typed remarks like "wtf, omg" and suddenly the all-powerful Locust_Star magically appears...

If you've seen him before, he's basically a bald guy wearing a black long sleeve. Anyway he tells the guy making harassing remarks to keep it clean then he disappears (mods = invisible). The guy didn't knew who Locust was so he ignored him.

Locust pops out of nowhere and I believed he suspended that guy since the avatar immediately went away. Then my sister's Home avatar literally teleported to some other area of the Plaza with Locust and he asked my sister if she knows how to report. The guy was still harassing my sister via PSN messages though (on my account too -_-).

But anyway, be careful for those that screw around. The mods are watching..."

What are the moderators stance on all this though? What actions do they take? In search of an answer we turned to TedTheDog 'Home Community Manager' on the European Playstation community forums. Ted had the following to say about invisible moderation:

Firstly, even our moderation policies and practices are in beta. We've got both in place and we'll change them if need be. For example we're looking to change a couple of things to better deal with certain types of harressment. I cant go into further detail, its simply not ready yet, but the point is we're adapting.

Another thing is that all moderation will be done by SCEE staff. We will not be recruiting volunteer moderators. Its a job with customer services, business and legal ramifications and not something a volunteer force should be asked to do.

Our moderators are invisible and the grief reporting mechanism alerts us to people we should be watching. However grief reports are not something we take at face value, we always treat them as an alert that something needs to be investigated rather than a call to zap someone just because a grief report was submitted. Although invisible our moderators will be showing themselves occasionally to let people know they're there but moderating whilst invisible brings us a powerful mechanic and a huge efficiency at the same time.Thats probably stating the obvious but its worth saying anyway.

Suspensions and Bans are not from Home, they're from PlayStation Network and we have more control than I could mention (or can discuss in detail) and certainly more control than I think most people realise and we can do that without mac or IP addresses getting involved.

With regards to "bad people" we like to consider the intent of their actions. Some people can annoy others through innocent actions and some people just set out to annoy. We like to think we'll seperate those out and educate one group and moderate the other. Obviously something on the scale of Home will need public education schemes rather than 1 to 1 pep talks and we'll work on that too.

So, I'd like to reassure you that we will endeavour to tackle problems and we've got plans in place that we're working to right now and that we can adapt if we find improvements. Its early days still, this phase of the beta has just begun, but we're making progress and will improve over time."

We’re sure you agree that it’s nice to know that security is out there. But we still have concerns. First, due to the invisible nature of it, the concerned general public will never really know how tight (or lax) the security in Home really is. Second of all, will all this be enough to stop an innocent unworldly minor from giving out his/her name/age/location, or someone getting stalked via other means (email, instant messaging, regular PSN messaging)?

We'd like to think the answer to that question is ‘Yes’, but ultimately it’s not a pedo-bear perfect system and just as the moderators will adapt to combat weirdos, the weirdos will adapt to find new loopholes. Obviously, we hope we’re wrong on this one.

http://www.gameplayer.com.au/gp_documents/090108PSNHomeissues.aspx
 
Sowas ist natürlich nur in Home möglich. Diese Community besteht ja nur aus perversen:x Alle Kinderschänder haben sich ne PS3 gekauft um Kinder in Home abzuschleppen. :rofl4:
 
@Pedonews, in den USA wurde ein 12 jähriger Junge (real) von einem 19 jährigen Mitspieler aus XBL geraped, soviel zu eurem Pedogebluber :lol2:. Checkt einfach meinen Blog dadrüber. Wer Home mit NXE vergleicht, hat doch null Ahnung von beiden Anwendungen. Das momentane NXE ist einfach nur ein billiger XMB Klon und keine Konkurenz zu Home.
 
@Pedonews, in den USA wurde ein 12 jähriger Junge (real) von einem 19 jährigen Mitspieler aus XBL geraped, soviel zu eurem Pedogebluber :lol2:. Checkt einfach meinen Blog dadrüber. Wer Home mit NXE vergleicht, hat doch null Ahnung von beiden Anwendungen. Das momentane NXE ist einfach nur ein billiger XMB Klon und keine Konkurenz zu Home.

Neue Definition von "billiger"? Also wenn ein Produkt mehr kann als ein anderes, dann ist es ein billiger Klon? Ok, dann ist KZ2 ein billiger Halo 3 Klon.

Also deine neue Definition gefällt mir :goodwork:
 
@Pedonews, in den USA wurde ein 12 jähriger Junge (real) von einem 19 jährigen Mitspieler aus XBL geraped, soviel zu eurem Pedogebluber :lol2:. Checkt einfach meinen Blog dadrüber. Wer Home mit NXE vergleicht, hat doch null Ahnung von beiden Anwendungen. Das momentane NXE ist einfach nur ein billiger XMB Klon und keine Konkurenz zu Home.

Immer noch nicht geschnallt, dass NXE keine Konkurrenz für Home sein soll. Und das ist auch gut so. Selten so was langweiliges wie Home gesehen. In einem Jahr spricht darüber kein Mensch mehr. Ist ja schon jetzt nichts mehr los.
 
Immer noch nicht geschnallt, dass NXE keine Konkurrenz für Home sein soll. Und das ist auch gut so. Selten so was langweiliges wie Home gesehen. In einem Jahr spricht darüber kein Mensch mehr. Ist ja schon jetzt nichts mehr los.

Eben. Ich fand Home schon von Anfang an ne Fehlentwicklung... und jetzt wo es da is find ichs sogar noch schlimmer. :shakehead:
 
Immer noch nicht geschnallt, dass NXE keine Konkurrenz für Home sein soll. Und das ist auch gut so. Selten so was langweiliges wie Home gesehen. In einem Jahr spricht darüber kein Mensch mehr. Ist ja schon jetzt nichts mehr los.

Ist mir auch schon aufgefallen das es ziemlich ruhig um das ach so brachiale Home geworden ist. Nicht mal die Hardcore Forentrolle hier versuchen es zu hypen.
 
Home ist genau das was man erwartet hat. Ich finds immer noch gut, schaue dort bestimmt einmal in der Woche rein. Was macht ihr denn mit NXE?
 
Home ist genau das was man erwartet hat. Ich finds immer noch gut, schaue dort bestimmt einmal in der Woche rein. Was macht ihr denn mit NXE?

Wow, einmal die Woche reinschauen um festzustellen, dass es immer noch scheiße ist ;)
NXE schau ich im Übrigen fast täglich rein, denn immer dann wenn ich die Box anmache. Ist bei einem Betriebssystembestandteil so üblich 8)

Aber mit einem hast Du recht.
Home ist genau das geworden, was ich erwartet habe. Rest kann man sich denken 8)
 
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