PS3/360 Fallout: New Vegas

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also nachdem mich fallout 3 jetzt doch ziemlich begeistern konnte im zweiten anlauf, werde ich hier definitiv ein auge auf dem titel behalten. :)
 

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Gut, gut.

Hauptsache keine lahme Einleitung wie bei Teil 3 und ein bissel mehr RPG Elemente.
Ammo und Medipacks können ruchig auch wieder etwas Gewicht kosten ;)
Science/Lockpick etwas variabler als dieses unsägliche 25,50,75, 100 System.
ohja, mich hat das mit den medipacks und der munition die nichts wiegen auch ziemlich gestört. macht halt keinen sinn, wenn sonst jedes item was wiegt.

diese einteilungen bei lockpick etc. haben mich auch genervt, allerdings war das nicht so schlimm wie das andere mit der munition und den medipacks.
 

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wusste leider net das schon ein Thread zu dem Thema existiert. Aber als ich davon hörte musste ich mein Senf dazu geben.

Ich finde den Vorspann richtig gelungen. (Gänsehaut). und freu mich wie schmidt´s Katze auf das Game.

Normalerweise oute ich mich als hater der NewGen aus. Aber bei dem Game muss ich nochma die 360 aus dem Keller holen.
 

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ich hätte mir ein frischeres setting gewünscht. wobei man von new vegas an sich ja bisher nur die comcept zeichnung gesehen hat. bisher sieht aber alles wie gewohnt matschig braun aus. fallout 3 halt ;)
wird natürlich trotzdem gekauft. fallout 3 war für mich das mit abstand geilste spiel des letzten jahres!
 

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  • It shows the command wheel for followers, with 8 commands: toggle melee/ranged, open inventory, toggle stay close/keep distance, back up, toggle aggressive/passive AI, use stimpack, toggle wait here/follow me, return to normal dialogue.

  • Scripting is wittier, characters more distinct. Example from vigour test word association: mother-human shield.

  • Opening inventory consists of a kit from the doc, adapted to your starting stats (like Fallout 1).

  • The Nevada area is less affected by the nuclear war, so it has plant life, relatively unspoiled houses, and in visual presentation has saturated colours and a bright sky.

  • There's a tutorial (led by a character named Sunny who looks a lot like Moira Brown), but unlike Fallout 3, it's optional, so you can hit the open game in 5 minutes from starting.

  • NCR and Caesar's Legion are the confirmed faction, article assumes Brotherhood of Steel will be in but they weren't not mentioned in the presentation.

  • "In New Vegas it's all about the player examining the ideologies of the various groups that are controlling the area and supporting one over the others," explains Sawyer. "Each of the ideologies will have something good that you can relate to, but will also have massive flaws."

  • When asked about PS3's Fallout 3 being inferior to the others and if New Vegas will do better, Obsidian devs make no promises but indicate it was a learning process and they're working with all 3 platforms and all have problems.

  • The New Vegas strip is still in construction but will have gambling, variety shows and concerts.

  • Electrical power is key in the faction struggle.

  • Radiation is still a problem, there's a nuclear test site to explore north of New Vegas.

  • The soundtrack will blend "Rat Pack style tunes with more Western numbers".

  • New Vegas doesn't tell a single-player story, but weaves decision into the gameworld and gives you greater power to influence things than Fallout 3 did.

  • On top of adding back in geckos, New Vegas has a whole new type of animal: mutated mountain rams called Big Horners.
 

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infos aus dem deutschen pc gamer preview

Page 1: Introduction and reference to fallout 1 + 2. And mentioning of the fact that the old games played on the westcoast and FO3 on the east
Page 2: Mentions the char creation. Most of it was mentioned already in other threads here. You get shot in the head and buried in the Mojave. The Robot shown in the teaser digs you out and brings you to Goodsprings. The interface for appearance selection seems to be unchanged apart from a slide to set your age.
There are some speculations about rumours on this page too: The Origin-like Backgrounds for Characters remain unconfirmed. Chinese Agent Faction and/or Origin remain unconfirmed. Ghouls are present in FONV but PCGamer thinks it unlikely that you can play a ghoul (don’t know what leads them to that assumption). Vehicles remain unconfirmed but they think it possible, since the terrain isn’t as urban as the Wastelands of the capital. Caesar's Legion is in Control of NV or at least a part of it (Vegas Strip). This leads to some speculation about Arena-fights and betting.
Page3: Char creation again. FONV will have about the same size as FO3. Your first Goal is to find out why you were killed. Your adventures will have a significant impact on the development of Vegas. Weapon modifications. Most of this was mentioned already. You can put an extended clip and a scope on pistols. Pistols are only effective at close range because of a big spread at long range. Rifles can be further upgraded by a mod that increases RoF. There’s a mention of the fact that in FO1+2 weapons could be modified but FO3 achieved this only through Fan-made Mods.
Page4: Mentions Pipboy and the hardcore-mode. Some aspects of hardcore are: stimpaks heal over time. You can die of dehydration (there was some speculation on NMA if dehydration would lead to death or only to stats-losses. So don’t forget taking some water with you)
Ammo has weight and crippled limbs need to be treated by a doctor.
Some places like goodsprings, hooverdam and McCarran Airport are mentioned. Area 51 remains unconfirmed. The solar-array can be used as weapon or powersupply, a choice to be made by the player.
Some Graphics comparsions. As mentioned by buxbaum666 the animations and faces seem to be slightly worse than FO3 but they mention that there’s ample time for Obsidian to improve this.
Page5: History of Obsidian, Games they made and the fact that a lot of the people that made FO2 are working at Obsidian now.
In Goodspring you get to do the tutorial. The tutorial can be skipped (thank god).
Page6: Combat System. VATS remains unchanged so far. Except that each melee-weapon now has a special attack. You can side with the powder gang or assist the people of Goodsprings to beat the gang off. The stuff about the companion-wheel was already mentioned.
Page 7: Mentions that the dialog-system has been reworked. Apparently each and every possible answer is shown even if your skills are too low. The way the options are written should give the player an idea if they are likely to succeed on a skilltest. If an answer contains a lot of stuttering or insecurity the player should choose another option. You don’t get punished for failing a test directly. You can also retry the speechoption again later when you have increased the relevant skill. The NPC’s respond believable to your insecurity by low skills.
Page 8: Combat again and weapon-mods again. Then some info on the reputation-system (with a mention that Players of FO1+2 will recognize this). Instead of karma you get reputation for different locations and factions. There are 3 factions: NCR is based at the McCarren Airport and is allied to BOS. Ceasers Legion is based in Vegas-Strip. And then there are the people of Vegas, based in… well, Vegas.
Page9: confusing bit: barter is not used solely for trading but represents your ability to persuade (don’t know what happens to speech). Mention of Black Mountain and supermuties, nothing really new. Some are smart some are stupid and you can take advantage of this and sow some dissent. And some, of course, are night-kin.
Page10. You get a companion in Black Mountain. Some stuff about companion-management.
First Impression of Weber: I liked Fo1 and 2. I was excited when Bethesda announced Fo3 and made that excellent game (quote of Weber, don’t burn me). The chap was disappointed at first when he heard about FONV because he hoped for the next evolution of FO after FO3 (don’t know what that would be exactly in his opinion, something like FO3:BOS 1st Person with IMMERSION-Engine™). But after an hour of FONV he lost the bad feeling and cant wait now to know how the story goes on and how Obsidians changes will feel.
The interview with Chris Avellone:

  • PG: Why Vegas?
  • CA: We wanted to take the player away from D.C. and far to the west. So that the feeling was more of the wild west instead of the feeling of “rebirth” of FO3.
  • PG: some of you worked on the old titles, how do you feel about being able to work on FONV?
  • CA: Very happy. Loved FO1, was happy to work on 2 and was happy too when Bethesda came around the corner asking him to do FONV.
  • PG: So Bethesda asked you? You didn’t go to beth?
  • CA. yes, they approached us. But with our background this wasn’t surprising. We showed that we can do good games based on existing material. And many of us have worked on Fallout.
  • PG: Whats the biggest difference between FO3 and FONV?
  • CA: The focus in NV will be on interaction with the factions. There will be lots of ways to piss those off or get on their good side. Moddable Weapons, Companion-Management and new dialog-system.
  • PG: (intelligence) So I can ruin my reputation easily in NV?
  • CA: Well, its like real life: different people react differently to your actions. Sometimes the player will realise immediately that he fucked up, sometimes consequences will show hours later. Same with the dialog: some npc’s will react different to different skills and they respond accordingly.
  • PG: Will we be able to correct our decisions?
  • CA: Absolutely. If you later got the skills or stats then you can certainly try to get things straight.
  • PG: How is the progress on the Game?
  • CA: Good. Right now we work on dialog and places. The rest looks pretty good.
und hier noch was aus der US pc gamer

The new issue of PC Gamer US, with what they call "world exclusive" preview of Fallout: New Vegas, despite all the other ones we've already seen, has already reached the subscribers. Here's a summary of some interesting info (most of the article repeats what we already know from the British and German magazines):

  • The box on the first page of the preview names Bethesda as both the publisher and the developer, while the article text itself gives due credit to Obsidian and discusses the devs' work on Fallout, Fallout 2 and Van Buren.
  • New California Rangers wear modified LAPD riot armor. The trenchcoat guy from the teaser is identified as one in the article.
  • Gun modifications will increase damage, ammo capacity, accuracy, rate of fire and more
  • The player will be able to have two or three companions in their party
  • With Raul the ghoul in your party, you'll start to pick up clues that he's more than just a simple mechanic
  • Unsurprisingly, deathclaws and radscorpions are mentioned
  • From the screenshot, Fore! indeed looks like an attack on the head, not groin, as mentioned in an earlier preview
  • The dinosaur casino is identified as Dinky the Dinosaur
  • NCR is described as large and powerful but bureaucratic.
  • Chris Avellone: "It's a very amusing location design-wise. Vegas is like a whole city-wide amusement park. We can play on different themes, different styles. It's fun for the artists, it's fun for the designers... I don't know how much fun it's going to be for the programmers"
  • J.E. Sawyer: "The Karma system is mostly the same as in Fallout 3, but checked less often. Mostly we rely on reputation, because that's what people know. Karma is just a general indicator of how much of a sonofabitch you are. If you murder people in secret, your reputation doesn't go down because no on knows you did anything, so you can maintain a good reputation but your karma has tanked really heavily. Karma does influence some things, but reputation is usually what most people in the world base their opinions of you on."
  • Avellone: "We recognized that one of the strengths of Fallout 3 was that so much of the game revolved everything around Washington, D.C. That's your signature city. And to be honest, adventuring in post-apocalyptic D.C. is interesting. You're like, OK, I get it. I know what D.C. is like in the real world, I'd like to see what it's like in the real world when mutants are running around in the streets.
    So, if we have a western version of Fallout 3, what's a key signature city that people will immediately gt when they hear the title. And also, what's interesting to us? So individually, Vegas came up for a number of people without a community discussion about it. That kept coming up. So we said, OK, if within this small sample group that city keeps coming up, and we understand why, that's the city to use."
das spiel wird das beste aus den ersten teilen und dem dritten in einem epos zusammenführen :D
 
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