3. HD DVD vs. BluRay

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aber es wird sich auf die verkäufe der ps3 auswirken, was der 360 langsfristig bestimmt nicht gut tut.

Nö da es bald BluRay Player für 299$ geben wird!Und bis Ende des Jahres gibt es sie noch günstiger!
HD DVD Player gibt es auch für 99$!Und die Qualität ist gleich!
Außerdem wird sich sowieso kein HD Format durchsetzen! :)
DVD pWns all! :P
 
Nö da es bald BluRay Player für 299$ geben wird!Und bis Ende des Jahres gibt es sie noch günstiger!
HD DVD Player gibt es auch für 99$!Und die Qualität ist gleich!
Außerdem wird sich sowieso kein HD Format durchsetzen! :)
DVD pWns all! :P

shock, denial, anger, acceptance....
 
[CES] Why did Warner Switch to Blu-ray?

Warner Bros Entertainment Inc has decided to support Blu-ray. The next-generation DVD war that flared up in the spring of 2006 entered a new phase immediately after 2008 began.

Next-generation DVD formats emerged with the first compatible players in the spring of 2006 and entered into full-scale adoption in 2007, with unit sales of players and packaged media growing significantly compared with the previous year.

Greeting 2008, Nikkei Electronics summarizes the trends in the next-generation DVD war through the end of 2007, based on announcements from supporters of both formats. The graphic data in this article was shown by the Blu-ray Disc Association at the 2008 International CES.

With Toshiba Corp releasing the "HD-A2" low-priced player temporarily at US$99 in November 2007, for example, HD DVD players saw unit sales sharply grow through strategic pricing, which manufacturers apparently implemented being aware that they could end up with a loss. Cumulative HD DVD player sales in the US reportedly reached roughly 1 million units, including external players for the Xbox 360.

On the other hand, cumulative sales of BD players are only about 500,000 units. Combined with PlayStation 3 (PS3) sales of around 3.5 million units, however, total sales reach about 4 million units and overwhelm those of HD DVD on a simple calculation basis.

The BD player sales must, however, reflect the fact that many consumers purchased the PS3 for the purpose of playing videogames. Some say PS3 users that usually use the PS3 as a BD player are less than a 1/4 of all users. If it were a 1/4, BD players substantially penetrating today are about 1.4 million units. Hence, in the competition of hardware penetration, HD DVD is not at all inferior to BD.

How about the sales of packaged software then? As of January 2007, some forecast "Blu-ray media will leave HD DVD media far behind in sales " on the expectation that the PS3 will gain significant market share. In fact, however, there has been little variation in monthly sales with BD accounting for 60% and HD DVD constituting 40% of them, and both formats have never led the other by a large margin thus far.

Did antagonism between two formats cause Warner to take action?

Warner has provided its content in both Blu-ray and HD DVD formats thus far, taking an opportunistic stance. Why has the company decided to support Blu-ray while the two formats are still competing with each other? On the Internet, various rumors, including one about money changing hands, are swirling around.

However, it would have been a superficial issue even if a large amount of money had been transferred to Warner. I think the fundamental reason why Warner has decided to support BD lies exactly in the antagonism between BD and HD DVD, which is described above.

Currently, DVD sales in the US are slowly declining at an annual rate of 3 to 4%. To compensate for decreased DVD sales, the industry must establish the next-generation DVD market as soon as possible. To meet this goal, the industry should standardize a format and stop confusing consumers. Many of US movie companies including Warner must be considering in this way.

As explained above, however, supporters of Blu-ray and HD DVD are still in competition with each other, which is not likely to end soon. Warner must have wondered how it could help the industry standardize on a format.

The answer was simple. As long as most of the movie studios on the Blu-ray side wouldn't cross over to the HD DVD side, Warner could only become a Blu-ray supporter itself, changing the momentum.

Warner actually announced its support for BD at the right time, where it could give the heaviest possible damage to HD DVD supporters. It was just before the 2008 International CES. The HD DVD Promotion Group, an organization promoting the HD DVD format, was forced to call off its press conference scheduled for the CES, letting the public notice how badly HD DVD supporters were shaken by the news.

Under the current circumstances, where the market shares of the players are offsetting the others across the supporter groups, it is difficult to anticipate that the format competition will be over soon. However, it is apparently sure that the next-generation DVD war is likely to fluctuate widely for quite a while depending on US movie companies' reaction to Warner's move.

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http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080109/145130/
 
Klingt alles sehr plausibel. Ich denke, Warner hatte nichts gegen die HD-DVD, doch hätte weiterer Support die Entwicklung des HD Marktes zu lang gestoppt.Früher oder später muss man sich nun mal für ein, und am besten für das stärkere Format entscheiden. Da hatte die HD-DVD einfach Pech ! So bitte, Universal und Paramount, gebt der HD-DVD den Gnadenstoß :neutral:
 
wann zum Teufel komen Star Wars,Herr der Ringe,Alien ect.. auf Bluray???
 
USA: Warner plant erste Blu-ray Discs mit BD 1.1-Features

09.01.2008 (ks)

Nach der Fokussierung auf das Blu-ray Disc-Format will Warner in den USA bereits demnächst erste Titel veröffentlichen, die Blu-ray Disc-Profil 1.1-Features bieten. Dies kündigte Warner Home Entertainment Chef Kevin Tsujihara gegenüber dem amerikanischen "High Def Digest" an. Features wie Bild in Bild-Kommentare gab es bislang nur bei den HD DVDs von Warner, da diese erst von neueren Blu-ray Disc-Modellen unterstützt werden, die ab Ende letzten Jahres erhältlich sind. Die Playstation 3 von Sony wurde durch ein Firmware-Update BD 1.1-tauglich gemacht.

Zu den geplanten Titeln gehören unter anderem "Batman Begins" und die "Matrix"-Trilogie. Deren Blu-ray Disc-Veröffentlichung hatte Warner zurückgehalten, da zum Zeitpunkt der HD DVD-Veröffentlichung die technischen Möglichkeiten für Bild in Bild-Kommentare bei der Blu-ray Disc noch nicht gegeben waren. Einen genauen Termin für die Veröffentlichung der ersten Warner Blu-ray Discs mit Bild in Bild-Features gibt es bislang noch nicht.

www.areadvd.de

Batman auf Blue, dass ist sooooooooo geil :cheers:
 
Die HVD mit ihren maximal 3,9 TB wirkt gegen zukünftige Discs wie die PCD (Protein-coated Disc) mit bis zu 50 TB auch wieder arg begrenzt. ;-)

Leider muss man aber sagen, dass die Prototypen der PCD alles andere als ausgereift sind und bisher nur im Labor realisiert wurden. Im Gegensatz zur HVD, die eigentlich bereits 2006 mit 200GB erhältlich sein sollte (aber zurückgestellt wurde).
Da die HVD Alliance immer weiter anwächst (mit Unternehmen aus dem DVD Forum, der HD-DVD Group und der Blu Ray Association) und die Spezifikationen der HVD weit über der HD DVD bzw Bluray liegen haben bereits viele Unternehmen ihre Unterstützung zugesprochen und handeln die HVD deshalb als Next Gen Medium (weshalb sie auch wahrscheinlich zurückgestellt wurde).

http://www.golem.de/0502/36147.html

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Warum dann nicht einfach über Satellit! :goodwork:

XstreamHD details continue to emerge

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Just a few hours before our live coverage of the XStreamHD press event (11am PST) with Michael Douglas; many of the details have been released and we have to say this thing looks so incredible, we don't see how it can live up to the press release -- this is one of those times when we'd really love to be wrong. For starters, the service promises to deliver "the latest content from leading studios" in 1080p (MPEG-2 and x.264) with 7.1 channels of lossless DTS-HD Master Audio (96kHz/24bits) to your home via satellite, and if it stopped there it would be impressive enough, but no. The content is stored on the internally in your "Virtual Personal Library" until you access it with up to four simultaneous DLNA devices on your gigabit Ethernet home network. If you run out of space, you can use the extra drive bays to expand up to 2TB of storage. And because there is so much great OTA HD content, it features three ATSC tuners which can be used with a "Network Video Recorder" -- not sure what that is, or if its extra. And interestingly even includes a PBX that allows free calling between XStreamHD customers. As if this wasn't unbelievable enough, it all starts at $399 and is expected to hit in the fourth quarter of '08.

Mehr Details:

XStreamHD(TM) Unveils First-Ever Transport Network to Deliver High-Definition Movies, Music, and More Directly to the Home at CES 2008

Witness the XStreamHD Revolution in Action with Live Demos Featuring The Latest Content from Leading Studios and More at Sands Booth #71838 XStreamHD Press Conference on Tuesday, January 8 in Venetian Casanova 503 To Feature Two-Time Academy-Award Winner Michael Douglas

MCLEAN, Va. --(Business Wire)-- Jan. 8, 2008 XStreamHD, revolutionizing the delivery and distribution of Full HD entertainment to the home, today unveiled at CES 2008 (Sands Booth #71838) the first-ever transport network to deliver movies, TV, music, electronic games, and more in Full HD (1080p) video and 7.1 channels of DTS-HD Master Audio(TM), directly to consumers, via satellite.
"We've worked hard to address the real needs consumers have and find the solutions they're looking for. What they're missing is access to Full HD content," said XStreamHD Founder and CEO George Gonzalez. "Today is all about Full HD. We are pleased to announce that we are the first to deliver Full HD and 7.1 channels of lossless audio directly to your home."

The XStreamHD Revolution

XStreamHD is leading the Full HD revolution with the first transport network to bring 1080p video and 7.1 channels of lossless audio directly to the home via satellite. Never before has there been a home theater experience that combines all of the features, quality, value, and convenience that consumers want. XStreamHD offers affordable access to the highest quality HD movies, music, broadcast TV, electronic games, and more - without the limitations of programming schedules, storage space, or physical media, and without the hassles of video rental stores, slow mail service, or out-of-stock titles. With XStreamHD, consumers will never miss the new releases or the broadcast HD content they love. The hottest movies and new releases are delivered via satellite, while vintage titles may be delivered over a broadband Internet connection.

With XStreamHD, consumers can build a customized, unique, and unparalleled in-home entertainment network and enjoy the content they want most, when it's most convenient, anywhere in the home, and at the quality today's home theaters were designed to support. Only XStreamHD's proprietary technology delivers video in Full HD (1080p) - twice the quality of current cable and satellite offerings - and up to 7.1 channels of lossless audio, achieving sound quality that is identical to the studio master and surpassing any other direct-to-home service available.

The complete XStreamHD solution includes three core components that are quickly and easily installed by the user or, if preferred, by a qualified technician. The first is a small outdoor satellite antenna that captures multiple streams of Full HD content delivered by XStreamHD through existing standard geosynchronous satellites. From the dish, titles are stored centrally in the XStreamHD Media Server located inside the home. The Media Server stores your pre-selected titles in your Virtual Personal Library until you access them with any XStreamHD Media Receiver or DLNA-compliant device throughout your XStreamHD home network.

Pricing & Availability

The XStreamHD solution will be available to consumers in early Q4 2008. The introductory price for a complete XStreamHD home solution, including a Media Server and a Media Receiver, is available to initial subscribers starting at just $399.

Featured System Highlights

-- Satellite delivery of Full HD 1080p video, MPEG-2 or MPEG-4/H.264 in 4:3 or 16:9 screen formats

-- Satellite delivery of up to 7.1 channels 96kHz/24bits of lossless DTS-HD(TM) Master Audio

-- View four Full HD video streams simultaneously throughout the home

-- Learns users' choices and preferences to adopt their entertainment profile and continuously updates the Virtual Personal Library with titles they're likely to enjoy

-- Equipped with three ATSC tuners and a Network Video Recorder for viewing and recording three HDTV broadcasts at the same time - even while watching a fourth selection from your Virtual Personal Library(TM)

-- Patent Pending Adaptive Recording(TM) ensures accurate recording of HDTV programs from start to finish, even if broadcast schedules change or are delayed

-- Easy-to-use on-screen menus to manage content preferences, parental controls, spending limits

-- DLNA v1.5 certified to integrate all compatible devices on the XStreamHD network

-- Dual slide-in drive bays enable scalable storage featuring Seagate(R) Technology hard drive storage - 500GB, 1 TB, 2 TB options - and the ability to configure an external storage subsystem via the eSATA interface

-- Includes a feature-rich Personal PBX business-class phone system; also supports VoIP calls and offers free calls between XStreamHD subscribers

-- Uses gigabit Ethernet (GigE) permitting the transfer of HD video and audio at 1 gbps throughout the home

-- HDMI interface simplifies installation and ensures signal integrity for vibrant 1080p video

-- Front panel USB port for MP3 audio downloads

XStreamHD @ CES

The XStreamHD solution is currently set up at CES in Sands Booth #71838, with live demos at the top and bottom of every hour featuring the latest content from leading studios. Visitors to the booth can sign up to become an XStreamVIP and gain access to the exclusive XStreamHD community. Demos are also running simultaneously in the booths of XStreamHD's strategic partners, DTS, Inc. (Las Vegas Convention Center, South Hall 1 #21913) and Seagate Technology (Las Vegas Convention Center, South Hall 3 #30659).

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/08/xstreamhd-details-continue-to-emerge/
 
Leider muss man aber sagen, dass die Prototypen der PCD alles andere als ausgereift sind und bisher nur im Labor realisiert wurden. Im Gegensatz zur HVD, die eigentlich bereits 2006 mit 200GB erhältlich sein sollte (aber zurückgestellt wurde).
Da die HVD Alliance immer weiter anwächst (mit Unternehmen aus dem DVD Forum, der HD-DVD Group und der Blu Ray Association) und die Spezifikationen der HVD weit über der HD DVD bzw Bluray liegen haben bereits viele Unternehmen ihre Unterstützung zugesprochen und handeln die HVD deshalb als Next Gen Medium (weshalb sie auch wahrscheinlich zurückgestellt wurde).

http://www.golem.de/0502/36147.html

und welche wichtigen und großen firmen unterstützen HVD?

hab nur folgende mitglieder gefunden und die haben am datenträgermarkt nichts zu melden...

* Alps Electric Corporation, Ltd.
* CMC Magnetics Corporation
* Dainippon Ink and Chemicals, Inc. (DIC)
* EMTEC International (subsidiary of the MPO Group)
* Fuji Photo Film Company, Ltd.
* Konica Minolta Holdings, Inc.
* LiteOn Technology Corporation
* Mitsubishi Kagaku Media Company, Ltd. (MKM)
* Nippon Kayaku Co., Ltd.
* Nippon Paint Company, Ltd.
* Optware Corporation
* Pulstec Industrial Company, Ltd.
* Shibaura Mechatronics Corporation
* Software Architects, Inc. (?)
* Suruga Seiki Company, Ltd.
* Targray Technology International, Inc.
* Teijin Chemicals, Ltd.
* Toagosei Company, Ltd.
* Tokiwa Optical Corporation.
 
Sowas spielt eh keine Rolle in nächster Zukunft und hat auch nichts mit dem Thread zu tun, die Industrie hat sich jetzt für den neuen Standard entschieden und das ist gut so.
 
Ich glaube dass wir sehr lange, also mindestens 10 Jahre, mit der BR und 1080p leben werden(müssen). Auch die BR wird ja nicht von heute auf morgen die DVD ablösen, selbst das wird noch Jahre dauern da ist noch auf keinen Fall an kein neues Format für den Heimkinomarkt zu denken
 
wann zum Teufel komen Star Wars,Herr der Ringe,Alien ect.. auf Bluray???

Wenn die Blu-ray auf dem Massenmarkt angekommen ist. Richte Dich auf eine lange Wartezeit ein. Star Wars erschien erst nach 6,5 Jahren nach der Einführung der DVD auf eben dieser.

Solche Titel werden immer erst veröffentlicht, wenn möglichst viele Gerät installiert sind. Das wird wohl oder über jetzt ebenso laufen.
Mich kotzt es viel mehr an, dass ich erst in etwa 7 Jahren 'Das Dschungelbuch' auf Blu-ray bekomme, weil Disney mit seinen Platinum-Klassikern grundsätzliche eine sieben Jahre andauernde 'Ruhephase' einhält.
 
Universal not making any new HD DVD title announcements at CES

Amidst mounting speculation that it is soon to shift alliances, Universal Studios has confirmed that it will not be making any new HD DVD title announcements at this year's CES.

Though previous years have seen a cavalcade of title announcements from HD DVD-supporting studios at CES, this year's deafening silence from Universal and Paramount/DreamWorks has only fueled speculation that one (or both) of the studios are plotting a move to format neutrality or perhaps even Blu-ray exclusivity.

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