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Es geht nicht um die zurzeit sichtbare Grafik, sondern um die Steuerungsmethode. Das Wii U Gamepad ist neu und bietet keine andere Plattform.
das ist nichtmal unbedingt mein punkt. man kann jede plattform so zerreden, dass sie zum scheitern verurteilt ist..
der sinn und zweck dahinter? hirnloser hate, das was manche hier 24/7 praktizieren und der grund dafür, warum viele warthreads einfach nicht mehr lesbar sind..
 
Strong video game sales for Namco Bandai

Namco Bandai today announced increased revenues and profits for the first half of the 2013 fiscal year, with strong video game sales a key factor.

The company's Content segment, which includes its video game business, saw improved results year-over-year thanks in part to increased retail game sales. Namco Bandai sold 9.1 million software units across 104 titles during the first six months of the current fiscal year, compared to 7.2 million units sold across 69 titles year-over-year.

Breaking those figures down, the largest improvements were seen in the U.S. (3.4 million units sold compared to 1.9 million year-over-year) and Europe (2.4 million sold compared to 1.1 million year-over-year.) In comparison, Japanese sales figures were actually reduced (3.4 million units sold across 75 titles, compared to 4.2 million units sold across 44 titles).

In particular, Tekken Tag Tournament 2 sold 840,000 units in Japan and Europe, while Soul Calibur V managed 680,000 units sold across all regions.

Namco Bandai's best platform for sales was the PlayStation 3, with 3.3 million units sold in total across all regions, compared to 1.8 million sold for PSP, 1.5 million sold for Xbox 360 and 1.0 million sold for Nintendo 3DS.

For the fiscal half ended September 30, 2012, the company's Game Software business saw revenues of ¥31.5 billion ($392.3 million), up compared to last year's ¥28.0 billion ($349.0 million).

For the entire Content business, revenues were ¥116.7 billion ($1.4 billion), up 34.6 percent compared to ¥86.7 million ($1.1 billion) year-over-year, and operating income of ¥20.1 billion ($251.0 million), up 275.0 percent compared to ¥5.4 billion ($66.9 million) year-over-year.

Overall, Namco Bandai saw revenues of ¥222.6 billion ($2.8 billion), up 14.6 percent compared to ¥194.2 billion ($2.4 billion) year-over-year, and profits of ¥17.3 billion ($215.7 million), up 115.8 percent compared to ¥8.0 billion ($99.6 million) year-over-year.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/180819/Strong_video_game_sales_for_Namco_Bandai.php#.UJQVH2_Qdac
 
Wieder 3DS auch eine große Rolle spielt. Sehr schön. :)
 
Sony rating lowered to one point above junk status by investors

Investor services firm Moody's has reclassified the ailing electronics firm to one point above junk status.
sony investor level one point above junk status

Shrinking consumer demand for electronics has resulted in the Japanese firm's long-term debt rating being lowered one notch, according to Reuters.

Moody's Investor Service now considers the firm applicable to the lowest investment grade level possible before hitting "junk status". Once a company hits this grade, otherwise known as a "BB" rating or "high-yield bond", any investment made is high-risk by default -- something which could impact the company's plans to restructure and recover.

In October, the investment firm began downgrading Sony's status, believing the electronics maker's prospects, despite restructuring efforts, remained negative.

If Sony's rating is cut by one more point, some funds may be forced to offload debt, and the firm may find itself restricted in how much money it would be allowed to raise in credit markets.

"Without robust restructuring in the coming 12-18 months, Sony's non-financial services businesses will at best achieve roughly break even, and are also at risk of remaining unprofitable," the rating agency said in a recent report.

Sony's Q2, ending September 30, resulted in an operating profit of $388 million, in comparison to a $20 million loss in the same quarter within FY2011. The ailing electronics maker made a loss of $5.7 billion last year and $312 million in the first quarter.

As part of restructuring efforts implemented by CEO Kazuo Hirai, the electronics giant plans to close a number of offices within Tokyo, Japan, has created a voluntary retirement program for employees and the eventual dismissal of 10,000 workers from its global workforce.
Quelle: http://www.zdnet.com/sony-rating-lowered-to-one-point-above-junk-status-by-investors-7000007163/
 
Das sieht alles andere als gut aus für Sony...

Hiobs-Botschaft nach Hiobs-Botschaft... Wenn Kaz' Reformen nicht bald greifen, werden sie arge Probleme bekommen, an Geld zu kommen. Kein Wunder, dass sie bei der Vita nicht reagieren können.

Das Problem für Sony ist, dass ihre Zahlen allgemein rückläufig sind. Die PS3 wird immer und immer schwächer, wodurch der Umsatz auch immer weiter sinken wird.

Mal sehen, wie die PS4 so platziert werden wird. Von der Wirtschaft her betrachtet, würde ich keine High-End-Hardware mehr erwarten...
 
Wobei ich bei Kaz guter Dinge bin, der versteht schon was er da macht, aber mal schauen, schade das es die letzten Jahre so bergab ging.
 
Ich hoffe auch dass Kaz den Karren wieder aus dem Dreck ziehen kann. Imo ist er der richtige dafür.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/22/us-sony-panasonic-ratings-idUSBRE8AL07B20121122

Fitch cuts Sony debt ratings to "junk" status

Sony ist nun offiziell Müll :)

OK, der war etwas hart, aber mir wird hier oft genug gesagt, dass es im WAR-Bereich halt so ist und man sich nicht haben soll.

Die Entwicklung zeigt auf alle Fälle weiter nach unten. Ich schätze, dass die Reformen von Kaz erst, wenn überhaupt, in 2 bis 3 Jahren wirklich Früchte tragen können. Es ist eine riesige Firma und darüber hinaus noch eine japanische. Veränderungen kommen da quasi in unmerklicher Geschwindigkeit.

Ein Anfang wäre mit einer PS4 getan, die bei $299 direkt profitabel wäre. Aber ich denke mal, dass sie trotzdem, wie schon bei der Vita, den Spagat versuchen wollen und knapp subventionieren wollen, bei gleichzeitig sehr starker Technik um die $399 herum. Mal sehen, wie sich das auswirkt und was Sony vor hat, die E3 könnte es schon mal andeuten.
 
Kaz wird das schon richten, da bin ich mir sicher. :goodwork:

Die PS4 wird auch nicht mehr so ein Geldgrab wie die PS3 werden. Ich denke Sony wird mit 399-449€ launchen, ein wenig subventionieren am Anfang, und dann mal schauen, aber die werden das schon hinkriegen.
 
Quote die Artikel mal aus dem GAF.

So finally it has happened

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6190edbe-348a-11e2-8986-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz2CwmKgQHz

Sony and Panasonic given junk ratings
By Ben McLannahan in Tokyo

Fitch has cut the credit ratings of Sony and Panasonic to junk, saying that the recovery of both companies rests on aggressive and far-reaching restructuring.

On Thursday the credit rating agency docked Sony three notches to BB-, from BBB-, and Panasonic two notches to BB, from BBB-. Fitch justified the cuts – which made it the first major agency to strip either company of investment-grade ratings – by citing a long list of challenges, including loss of technology leadership in key products and the strong yen.

“This wasn’t an easy decision,” said Matt Jamieson, Seoul-based head of corporate research. “But their reputations have been hit so much that it’ll take a long while to crawl back.”

The downgrades come as both giants of the Japanese consumer electronics sector, with almost 500,000 employees between them, are suffering from falling competitiveness in televisions and other cornerstone products. Last month Panasonic warned it was on course for its second $10bn net loss in two years for the year to March 2013, while Sony posted its seventh consecutive quarterly net loss in the three months to September.
Fitch noted that both companies had solid buffers of cash, and also had profitable, cash-generating units such as Panasonic’s domestic appliance business and Sony’s image-sensing division. If executives can take an axe to the problem areas such as TVs for Sony and personal computers for Panasonic, then the rapid downgrades need not necessarily lead to more, said Mr Jamieson.

“I don’t think the banks will push either of these companies to the wall,” said Damian Thong, an equity analyst at Macquarie Securities in Tokyo. “But they do need to convince people that tough restructuring moves will be done in good time, while minimising unnecessary damage to healthy businesses.”

Sony and Panasonic have been two of the worst seven performers on the Nikkei 225 stock average since the beginning of last year, down 72 per cent and 65 per cent respectively, as investors have weighed the heavy costs of job losses and factory closures.
Over a longer horizon, a revival is possible, said Steve Durose, Fitch’s head of Asia Pacific technology, media and telecoms ratings, especially if the yen continues its recent weakening trend. But he said that the duo’s chances of rediscovering technological leadership to develop “must-have products” were hampered by their inability to invest as much as competitors.

While Sony and Panasonic will average about $2.5bn and $4bn, respectively, in capital spending over the next couple of years, Samsung Electronics and LG Electronics (including LG Display), for example, will spend $22bn and $5.5bn respectively.

“Without a radical change to the structure of their businesses it is difficult to see profitability improving enough for them to regain investment-grade ratings,” said Mr Durose.

According to Fitch’s spectrum, BB ratings indicate that companies are vulnerable to defaulting on debt over time, but have sufficient flexibility for now to keep servicing that debt.


Sony, Panasonic Credit Rating Cut to Speculative Grade

Sony Corp. (6758) and Panasonic Corp. (6752), the Japanese electronics makers reeling from record losses, had their credit ratings cut to junk for the first time by Fitch Ratings amid slumping demand for their televisions.

Sony’s rating was cut by three levels to BB-, three steps below investment grade, and Panasonic by two levels to BB, with the outlook on both companies being negative, Fitch said in separate statements today. Both companies had their short-term ratings reduced to B from F3.
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Sony Corp. and Panasonic Corp., the Japanese electronics makers reeling from losses, had their long-term credit ratings downgraded to junk by Fitch Ratings.

The companies will struggle amid a strong yen and weakened economic conditions at home and overseas, Fitch said. After dominating the consumer-electronics industry since the 1980s, Sony, Panasonic and Sharp Corp. (6753) have resorted to cutting jobs, closing plants and selling assets after failing to come up with hit products to challenge Samsung Electronics Co. and Apple Inc. (AAPL)

“The future of both companies will depend on their ability to curb loss-making segments and rediscover the kind of technological leadership, which historically enabled them to develop must-have products,” Steve Durose, Fitch’s head of technology ratings for the Asia-Pacific region, said in a statement. “Sony is the higher risk of the two, hence its lower rating.”
Yuki Shima, a spokeswoman at Tokyo-based Sony, and Chieko Gyobu, a spokeswoman at Osaka-based Panasonic, said their companies don’t comment on ratings changes.

Shares Collapse

Shares of Sony, Panasonic and Sharp sank to their lowest levels in more than 30 years in Tokyo this year as investors remain unconvinced the companies can rebound from mounting losses without hit products. The three companies combined are valued at $24 billion, compared with $528 billion for Apple and $192 billion for Suwon, South Korea-based Samsung.
Sony, founded in 1946 and the inventor of the Walkman player that revolutionized the music industry in the 1980s, was worth more than $120 billion in 2000. Its shares gained 1.8 percent to 834 yen in Tokyo trading today before the downgrade. The stock has lost 40 percent this year.

Panasonic, founded in 1918, rose 0.7 percent to close at 407 yen, trimming its loss this year to 38 percent.
“The downgrades may put pressure on shares,” said Mitsuo Shimizu, a Tokyo-based analyst at Iwai Cosmo Holdings Inc. (8707) “No measures to revive these companies have been found yet.”

Extra Yield
The extra yield investors demand to own Panasonic debt over similar-maturity sovereign bonds has fallen from 354 basis points on Nov. 7 to 197 basis points as of 5:14 p.m. in Tokyo, according to the Japan Securities Dealers Association. Investors demanded a premium of 63 basis points on Oct. 31, the data show.
The extra yield investors demand to own Sony’s 45 billion yen ($544 million) of 0.664 percent bonds due March 2017 rather than government debt fell six basis points to 116 today, according to JSDA prices. The notes were priced in March at a spread of 36 basis points, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Borrowing costs in the corporate-bond market have climbed for the three Japanese electronics makers as record losses and widening deficit forecasts sapped investor confidence.
Sony posted a net loss of 15.5 billion yen for the quarter ended Sept. 30, compared with the 15.6 billion-yen average profit of three analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg before the Nov. 1 announcement. The company, which has reported losses in each of the past four years, retained its forecast for full- year net income of 20 billion yen.

Meaningful Recovery
Sony was downgraded to the lowest investment grade on Nov. 9 by Moody’s Investors Service, which cited falling demand for the company’s TVs and cameras. Moody’s cut Panasonic to the same level on Nov. 20.

Sony Chief Executive Officer Kazuo Hirai is cutting 10,000 jobs and selling assets as he focuses on mobile devices, games and digital imaging to revive the company. Sony sold a chemical- products making unit, stakes in two display-making ventures and invested in Olympus Corp. (7733) after racking up 692 billion yen in losses selling TVs in the past eight years.

“Meaningful recovery will be slow, given the company’s loss of technology leadership in key products, high competition, weak economic conditions in developed markets and the strong yen,” Fitch said in today’s ratings statement.

Continuing weakness at Sony’s home entertainment, mobile and communications businesses will offset its “relatively stable” music and movie operations and improvements at its components businesses, Fitch said today.

Market Share
Sony had 7 percent of the global TV market in the quarter ended Sept. 30, down from 8.4 percent the previous quarter, according to DisplaySearch. Panasonic dropped to 6.2 percent from 6.8 percent in the same period. Samsung remained No. 1 with 25.2 percent, according to the researcher’s website.

Net debt for Sony’s non-financial services businesses increased by 400 billion yen from March to September, partly because of higher financial needs, Moody’s has said. Gross debt for Sony’s non-financial services businesses increased to about 1.25 trillion yen in September from 1.15 trillion yen in March. Cash and deposits decreased to about 420 billion yen from about 720 billion yen.

Panasonic, the maker of Viera televisions and Lumix cameras, forecast a 765 billion-yen net loss for the year ending March 31. That would be the second-biggest loss in company history after the 772 billion-yen net loss the previous year.

Today’s downgrade “reflects Panasonic’s weakened competitiveness in its core businesses, particularly in TVs and panels, as well as weak cash generation from operations,” Fitch said. “Panasonic will continue to suffer from frail economic conditions in both Japan and overseas and resultant weak demand for its products, as well as continuing price competition from overseas companies.”

Sharp, the Osaka-based maker of Aquos TVs, was downgraded to junk by Fitch earlier this month.
 
Will irgendjemand "Sony is doomed" schreiben? JD? Bond? NaughtyDog? Irgendwer :-?
 
Will irgendjemand "Sony is doomed" schreiben? JD? Bond? NaughtyDog? Irgendwer :-?

Ich hab dazu schon im PS4 vs X3 vs WiiU Thread was geschrieben.
Das war am Markt schon Monate Realität und ändert nichts an den strategischen Planungen



immer wieder lustig, wie manche Leute sich durch Newsartikel aufschrecken lassen.

Verändern tut sich durch die Abstufung rein gar nichts, das Anleihe-/Kreditrisiko war bei beiden vorher schon dermaßen groß, dass dies jetzt keinerlei Auswirkungen hat, die es nicht vorher schon gab. Der Junk Status war längst Realität.
Geld kann man sich aber problemlos noch auf anderen Wegen beschaffen, was Sony vor kurzem auch gemacht hatte, zb mit ner Wandelanleihe

http://www.mediabiz.de/musik/news/frisches-geld-fuer-sony/326259


Es wird auch die strategischen Planungen von Sony nicht tangieren, denn die stehen längst fest und werden durchgezogen.

Viel wichtiger als das Rating von Fitch ist der letzte Quartalsbericht, denn der zeigte, dass das operative Geschäft wieder Geld abwirft und somit kann man die eigene Cashposition stärken.


Hab ich gesagt das es gut ist? Oder hab ich gesagt, dass das Risiko klein ist? Weiß nicht was du immer aus meinen Posts herausliest.


Ich hab gesagt, dass der Junkstatus schon längst bei den Marktteilnehmern angekommen war, die Ratingagenturen hängen wie üblich 6 Monate und mehr zurück.
Es ändert sich halt jetzt nichts, Sony hat schon vorher auf normalem Wege nur schwierig Geld zu schlechten Konditionen bekommen.


Aber einige lesen solch eine News und denken, dass es irgendwelche Konsequenzen bei den aktuellen Geschäftsentscheidungen haben muss, dem ist aber nicht so, weils wie gesagt schon längst Realität war.


Falls Sony gestern eine Monster PS4 Hardware geplant hatte, planen sie sie auch noch heute.
So einfach ist das, vor allem weil die Konsolensparte überhaupt nicht das Problem ist, sondern die TV Sparte, nur daran wird sich Sonys Gesundung festmachen und nicht woanders.
 
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