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PlatformWAR Nintendo vs. Sony vs. Microsoft

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Hazuki schrieb:
Ich finde den Part viel geiler


Aber Schluss will es wieder keiner gesagt haben^^
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Ist natürlich absoluter Misst was der gute da geschrieben hat..ich finde die Einschätzung von Moore's Law is Deads da um einiges plausibler.... er schreibt zur Thema PS6 und dem Video worauf es sich bezieht:

"So, after sleeping on it I thought I would point a few things out that apparently aren't obvious to everyone:

1) The RTX 5090 will be likely around 100% better at rasterization than the PS6 lol - that's MASSIVELY higher performance, and that's why the 4nm 5090 is such a power hog compared to the future 3nm PS6. Furthermore, people should remember how BAD the 5090 is at gaming/area. The RTX 5090 is like double the size of the RTX 5080, and yet only 50% faster! It's a VERY inefficient GPU for GAMING. Seriously look it up, it's pathetic at gaming/watt.

2) PS6 will use a better node than current GPUs, more modern and efficient memory, and a purpose-built operating system - all of those things will also cut down on power compared to a windows PC.

3) A lot of people around here don't remember how stupid haters sounded regarding the XSX and PS5 back in 2019. Back in 2019 there were people claiming it would be impossible for the PS5 to even beat a 2070, and by the time the PS5 launched the 3070 was already out and slightly faster than the PS5. Think about it - if the PS6 is HALF the raster performance of the 5090, what do you think that means compared to the 6090? Basically every generation Sony has chosen a GPU for the latest PS Console that is between the latest Nvidia 60 and 80 GPU depending on how expensive they want the console to be. Half the Raster of the 5090 means it's likely around as fast as an RTX 6070 or 6060 Ti.

4) Relatively speaking Nvidia hasn't really improved Ray Tracing PER CORE almost at all since Ampere. I mean look it up - the 5080 isn't really better than the 4080 SUPER at Ray Tracing despite having more CUDA cores, ~30% more memory bandwidth, and higher clocks! https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2947/bench/RT-AW2-p.webpThat means Nvidia hasn't improved Ray Tracing AT ALL between the last two generations besides just making bigger GPUs. RDNA 5 does the opposite - it trades rasterization performance for Ray Tracing. Were Nvidia to have made the same trade the PS6 will make by now, the 5080 would be as good as the (current) 5090 at Ray Tracing, but in raster it would have fallen down a peg in that form of performance.Alright, so put it all together - All Sony is claiming in the documents I have is that they have a GPU as fast as the 6060 Ti or 6070 in 2027 that uses the same energy as a typical console lol. That isn't anymore insane than when we learned in 2019 that Sony would put a next-gen SSD in a $500 console...and they did do that despite what the armchair experts on Reddit said..."
 
xXLuciferXx schrieb:
Ist natürlich absoluter Misst was der gute da geschrieben hat..ich finde die Einschätzung von Moore's Law is Deads da um einiges plausibler.... er schreibt zur Thema PS6 und dem Video worauf es sich bezieht:

"So, after sleeping on it I thought I would point a few things out that apparently aren't obvious to everyone:

1) The RTX 5090 will be likely around 100% better at rasterization than the PS6 lol - that's MASSIVELY higher performance, and that's why the 4nm 5090 is such a power hog compared to the future 3nm PS6. Furthermore, people should remember how BAD the 5090 is at gaming/area. The RTX 5090 is like double the size of the RTX 5080, and yet only 50% faster! It's a VERY inefficient GPU for GAMING. Seriously look it up, it's pathetic at gaming/watt.

2) PS6 will use a better node than current GPUs, more modern and efficient memory, and a purpose-built operating system - all of those things will also cut down on power compared to a windows PC.

3) A lot of people around here don't remember how stupid haters sounded regarding the XSX and PS5 back in 2019. Back in 2019 there were people claiming it would be impossible for the PS5 to even beat a 2070, and by the time the PS5 launched the 3070 was already out and slightly faster than the PS5. Think about it - if the PS6 is HALF the raster performance of the 5090, what do you think that means compared to the 6090? Basically every generation Sony has chosen a GPU for the latest PS Console that is between the latest Nvidia 60 and 80 GPU depending on how expensive they want the console to be. Half the Raster of the 5090 means it's likely around as fast as an RTX 6070 or 6060 Ti.

4) Relatively speaking Nvidia hasn't really improved Ray Tracing PER CORE almost at all since Ampere. I mean look it up - the 5080 isn't really better than the 4080 SUPER at Ray Tracing despite having more CUDA cores, ~30% more memory bandwidth, and higher clocks! https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2947/bench/RT-AW2-p.webpThat means Nvidia hasn't improved Ray Tracing AT ALL between the last two generations besides just making bigger GPUs. RDNA 5 does the opposite - it trades rasterization performance for Ray Tracing. Were Nvidia to have made the same trade the PS6 will make by now, the 5080 would be as good as the (current) 5090 at Ray Tracing, but in raster it would have fallen down a peg in that form of performance.Alright, so put it all together - All Sony is claiming in the documents I have is that they have a GPU as fast as the 6060 Ti or 6070 in 2027 that uses the same energy as a typical console lol. That isn't anymore insane than when we learned in 2019 that Sony would put a next-gen SSD in a $500 console...and they did do that despite what the armchair experts on Reddit said..."
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Ich kenne das Video, die PS6 wird im Grunde eine weitere Massenmarkt Konsole mit dementsprechenden Preis/Leistungsverhältnis sein und die Masse wird damit einfach zufrieden und glücklich sein und die Technik Enthusiasten lechtzen dann bereits nach einer PS6 Pro, wenn die ersten Leaks und Spekulationen auftauchen.
Während andere sagen "wozu für mich ist die Base Konsole voll ausreichend"

Always the same Story :nix:
 
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