So turning to "Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet." That was a huge announcement for you all out of the Game Awards last December. You've said Naughty Dog has been working on it since 2020 — where you are in the process right now, and will we see or hear more about it at one of PlayStation's upcoming State of Play presentations?
What can I say and not say? I can tell you we're in the thick of it. We're making it, we're playing it. We're firing on all cylinders. I've said this before, but I really mean it, I'm really feeling it right now: It's the most ambitious game we've ever made. It's the most expansive game we've ever made, maybe the most expensive, by the time we finish it. Troy [Baker] is in the game, and it's been five years since I've worked with Troy, and I've got to do it again, and it was a lot of fun to be on the stage with him again.
As far as when we're going to show stuff, I'm so antsy to show it and talk about it because the trailer that we showed doesn't even scratch the surface of what this game actually is. But announcing a game like this, especially when it's new IP, especially when it's coming out of Naughty Dog, you've got to coordinate with marketing, with PR, with a bunch of people. So it'd be foolish for me to say when we're gonna show something right now.
You've described "Intergalactic" multiple times now as having "the deepest gameplay" in Naughty Dog's history. Can you tease that out a little bit more?
I'm not sure that I can. You could look at our previous titles and see the evolution of going from "Uncharted," where we're really cutting our teeth on realistic character-action game, third-person shooter, combined with emotional storytelling. With "The Last of Us," we added some RPG elements, we started playing with wide linear layouts. Continue that trajectory forward, add sci-fi and you start to get the sense of what we're doing, and then we've gotten even more ambitious than that. So really looking forward to see how it all comes together. I think you're all going to be pleasantly surprised by it.