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Das dürfte der Wirdu auf Dauer den Rest geben![]()
Ich glaube das ist zumindest von den 3rds schon längst zementiert.
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Das dürfte der Wirdu auf Dauer den Rest geben![]()
die nächsten 8 Monate kommt nix nennenswertes für Wirdu außer Wiiports
feine Konsole indeed![]()
When the concept of this little article initially popped in my head it was a rather one-sided affair. I wanted to address excuses the industry may likely be rationalizing themselves with in order to not properly show support for the Wii U. However, as I was gathering some information to create this piece I came upon a rather interesting revelation: The Wii U fans need to stop creating excuses as well.
As a long time Nintendo fan I am well aware of how the industry has generally treated our ilk. I am aware that popular analysts like Michael Pachter have often predicted some not-so-great things for Nintendo and often times Nintendo tends to prove those predictions wrong. I am aware that when you go around to most general purpose gaming news sites, you can see a clashing of multiple fanboyisms, in particular to loyalty on console brands.
The Sony and Microsoft fans tend to be the most common frequenters of these sorts of sites, but that makes a lot of sense when you consider the fact that both companies have been dabbling in the online community for many years with Xbox Live and the PlayStation Network. Only recently has Nintendo tried to get involved itself with the Nintendo Network, and it may take a few years before you see more Nintendo fans crawling into those same sites.
Still, a common trend is to put down Nintendo and write them off. They had the Wii, which was a kiddy console. They had the DS, whose most popular games are enjoyed by kids. Yet, while many educated Nintendo fans know neither of these factoids are true, it works the other way around. Often times we Nintendo fans think we're superior—that Sony and Microsoft fans are mindless drones, graphic whores, and any other number of hate speeches we wish to toss their way as we try to defend “our way” of gaming.
The fact is, we're all gamers. Gaming is a such a wide spectrum that includes everything from FarmVille on Facebook, Words With Friends on iPhones, and Wii Sports to games like Uncharted, Gears of War, Halo, and even The Legend of Zelda. There is no right or wrong way to game and no game that is superior to another's personal taste. We all game because it entertains us in some way, and who are we to put down another who enjoys something that we may not? Sure, we can argue that maybe they aren't looking at it in the right light, but we can't dictate what everyone should enjoy on their own personal level.
This leads into the entire debate about the Wii U. Right now, the sales are dwindling, we haven't had any notable new content since November 18th, and the first of what was supposed to be a consistent monthly release of quality content with Rayman Legends was delayed for porting. We've heard that developers who attended D.I.C.E. have canceled a slew of Wii U projects likely because they don't see a market there yet, while many of these same developers supported the PlayStation 3 when it had worse sales in its first year, supposing it would eventually find a market.
Logically we could say that Nintendo has been at this for over 25 years, so the only for sure thing you can state is that they can and will prevail. So why not support the only system you know won't go away? Saying this as fans makes a lot of sense to us. We're frustrated at the lack of content, and for some, the lack of compelling reasons to buy the console. Many won't see one until the next Zelda game arrives.
This ignores the other side of the spectrum. It ignores the rift Nintendo has made with 3rd parties dating back to the N64 era. That isn't to say other companies necessarily treat third parties any better today, but none of those companies have a history of turning their backs on them for as long as Nintendo does.
It ignores the fact that some companies have tried to sell their games on Nintendo platforms even as recently as the Wii. Games like Madworld seemed rather brilliant, but its abysmal sales have lead to it being a one and done game. The fact they didn't try to bring it to other consoles could simply be an indicator that they lost too much money on it to afford such an endeavor.
Dead Space: Extraction was a fantastic on-rails arcade style shooter. It fit perfectly with the Wii and the controls were near flawless. A quality experience. Why didn't it sell? Many fans claim because it wasn't a true Dead Space game. Is that really the excuse? Would Dead Space 2 sell any better? Could it just be that Nintendo gamers have a different taste in games than those on the 360 and PS3?
While many will state they played Assassins Creed III and really wanted Rayman Legends, the numbers say that we're really the minority of the Wii U's consumer base, not the majority. Most Wii U owners have one of two games, if not both: Nintendo Land and New Super Mario Bros. U. ZombiU has sold 330,000 copies and is the most successful non-Nintendo game on the platform. It's a respectable number when there are only roughly 3 million Wii U owners in the world.
Yet 1,520,000 copies of New Super Mario Bros. U have sold, which is an attach rate of 50%. Nintendo Land's attach rate is even higher, coming in at 1,620,000 copies sold. When the next best non-Nintendo game from launch stands at a mere 330,000 in comparison, it's a rather ugly trend. It only further proves the stigma that only Nintendo games sell to Nintendo gamers.
Now, the only way to break this stigma of course is to continue to give Nintendo gamers a steady stream of content they aren't use to getting. Maybe Assassins Creed III only moved 100,000 copies on the Wii U, but wouldn't those numbers start to grow if future installments arrived? You would think so, as Nintendo consumers start to become more aware of these games and start to wonder what they are all about.
Fact remains, it is hard to get a 3rd party developer to take that risk when they haven't had much success in the past decade on Nintendo consoles. If it wasn't for the fact that Call of Duty traditionally still moved a million units on the Wii, you could argue we wouldn't get that title either.
We as Nintendo fans have to respect the fact that it hasn't been easy going for 3rd parties on the Wii U, and while they are partially responsible for this trend, they aren't wholly to blame. We may rage over Rayman Legends, but the actual intent to buy crowd probably doesn't even break the 50,000 mark, which only further proves the point that the games aren't selling.
Maybe people dislike what Pachter has to say, but when has he ever directly attacked Nintendo's games? He has consistently said that Nintendo produces top notch software – it's really the sole reason Nintendo has remained relevant. Their software is some of the best in the industry. Without something like Wii Sports, how do we even know if the Wii would sell?
The fact remains that blame lies with all of the above. We as fans need to be a bit more humble towards other fan bases and other non-Nintendo related publishers. On the other hand, we need those publishers to not so easily abandon us and allow a base to grow naturally from a girth of content Nintendo gamers aren't accustomed to. No one is taking away our Mario, our Zelda, our Pokémon, Kart, or Pikmin. Rather, we just want to see some good faith support that promises a better tomorrow. Platinum is a nice start, but we would love to see more.
In the end, folks, let's stop making excuses for why the Wii U should get support. Us just saying we want it isn't going to cut it, or comparing the support of the PlayStation 3 to the Wii U just isn't a fair comparison. Those games were already selling on the previous version of their latest system—they weren't selling on our Wii or our GCN. They knew they had a fanbase that would come—they don't know as of yet if they have one with Nintendo.
The third party publishers also need to stop making excuses. They need to realize the potential of a market they are missing out on—the potential of the fact that while sales for a few years may be low and not covering costs, the profits off other consoles should make up for it. The fact that doing this is going to create a base of gamers on those consoles from which profits can be made. Maybe you only get a game up to 2 million sold on the Wii U, but handled correctly, that will turn a nice profit margin. Handled incorrectly and you end up with unreal expectations. Can't we all just... get along?
P.S. - It should also be noted for those 360, PS3, Vita, and PC fans out there that just because a Nintendo fan may come at you or you disagree with something Nintendo does, it doesn't give you open season rights to degrade us as lesser gamers. Many of us do own 360s and PS3s. We do play these games on PCs because we don't have another option. At the same time, we're aware the Wii sold well to families and the DS too. We in turn hope to be equally respectful back, and only dish criticism when it's deserved.
All sales figures were based off listings at VGChartz.
die nächsten 8 Monate kommt nix nennenswertes für Wirdu außer Wiiports
feine Konsole indeed![]()
Zu unbekannt.Wirdu
Wiiports
indeed
Wow bist du cool. Hat BILD-RTL dich schon fürs Dschungel-Champ gebucht?
Die diesjährige Staffel konnte man immerhin anschauenWirdu
Wiiports
indeed
Wow bist du cool. Hat BILD-RTL dich schon fürs Dschungel-Champ gebucht?
.Aha, nach Madden jetzt auch kein Golf. War das im Trailervideo nicht einer der Beispiele für (un)sinnigen Gebrauch des Gamepads?

Ich glaube das ist zumindest von den 3rds schon längst zementiert.
Hör einfach auf unnötig zu provozierenwie verplant wieder austickt, so vorhersehbar![]()
.http://www.playerattack.com/news/2013/02/10/wii-u-walking-dead-scrapped-in-australia/Activision has confirmed that the Wii U version of upcoming title The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct will not be headed to Australia, despite the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions hitting local shelves.
This is not the first Wii U release that Activision has decided not to deliver to Australian gamers - deciding late last year that the territory did not need another version of launch title 007 Legends.
Last week, Activision sent a barrage of information about the new game - including a first-look trailer - but notably not including any reference to the Wii U build. Now, a local branch of the company has provided a statement to Vooks, explaining the disappointing situation:
In a smaller market such as Australia, this sort of decision is not uncommon - EA famously refused to import copies of GameCube games, blaming poor sales.As with every game release, publishers decide which platforms to release based on customer demand. Unfortunately it wasn’t there for the Wii U sku on The Walking Dead.
Less than six months after launch, is the Wii U really doing so poorly that it's dropping publisher support already?
Braucht Nintendo die 3rds denn so dringend, als dass sie unbedingt jedem Titel hinterherhechten müssten? Wenn ihr mich fragt, nein, eine Nintendokonsole kaufen sich die Leute nicht wegen der 3rd-Party-Titel, sondern wegen der In-House-Games und vereinzelten Exclusives. Nintendo hätte rein theoretisch die Kohle, sich kleinere Teams beziehungsweise Indies ins Boot zu holen und diese werkeln zu lassen. Dafür muss aber erst einmal die sehr passive Herangehensweise, die man jetzt fährt, über Bord geworfen werden und ein wenig mehr Aggression her. Zudem sollte Nintendo sich wirklich bewusst sein, dass ihre Käufer einen starken In-House-Titel zum Start oder kurz danach erwarten und in der Hinsicht auch mal abliefern.
Das dürfte der Wirdu auf Dauer den Rest geben![]()
den Abgesang sollte sich keiner wünschen.Darf ich mal interessiert nachfragen, warum du dich auf einen Abgesang der WiiU freust? Es ist für mich schwer verständlich.

Ich von mir aus brauche keine 3rds groß auf N konsolen. Wobei so Mackwerke wie Fragile Dreams ich auf Wii gerne mitgenommen habe. Allerdings werdeich mir für die 3-5 lohnenswerten N Titel auch keine Wii U kaufen, sondern diese samt Games brav ausleihen.

den Abgesang sollte sich keiner wünschen.
Eher ein Wachrütteln von Nintendo...und einigen ihrer Fanboys tut es gut vom hohen VKZ-Ross runterzukommen![]()
.Darf ich mal interessiert nachfragen, warum du dich auf einen Abgesang der WiiU freust? Es ist für mich schwer verständlich.
...die auch mal einsehen sollten, dass sie nicht 100% anders als Sony und MS sind und dementsprechend auch mit harten Bandagen kämpfen sollten.Eher ein Wachrütteln von Nintendo...

Ach, ich erinnere mich noch an Freudenrufe hier im Forum, als die PS3 in dieser Hinsicht die 360 überholt hat. Da nimmt sich keine Fanfraktion was.und einigen ihrer Fanboys tut es gut vom hohen VKZ-Ross runterzukommen![]()

den Abgesang sollte sich keiner wünschen.
Eher ein Wachrütteln von Nintendo...und einigen ihrer Fanboys tut es gut vom hohen VKZ-Ross runterzukommen![]()
Von was sollen sie sich Wachrütteln? Und warum ihre Fans? Das sind doch jetzt die Sony Fans, die am Rad drehen wie sonst was....
