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ein weiterer Bericht über das "schöne" Nordkorea...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A41966-2003Oct3?language=printer

The pictures that the committee has procured -- and now published, together with a report called "The Hidden Gulag" -- are satellite photographs of North Korean concentration camps. With remarkable clarity they show, for example, the contours of Yodok, one of the most notorious prison camps in North Korea: the barracks and "villages" inhabited by different categories of prisoners, including political prisoners; the mines, the flour mill, the farms where prisoners work; the cemetery. They also show the outlines of Bukchang, another vast camp, including its cement factory, its hospital, its punishment barracks, its school for prisoners' children. Distinct objects, including the high walls that enclose the camps, are clearly visible.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61886-2003Oct21.html

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/cRosett/?id=110004200
 
Hier ein Ausschnit der Mail die es gab an die Mitglieder, ich würde übrigens gerne mitfahren nur habe ich die 1080€ nicht..:

Dear friends,

I hope my mail will find you in good health.

Finally we've the program of the Reunification March 2004 that will bring us together to Beijing and the DPRK.

After many requests from friends and visitors to the DPRK, we created an active program that will include the daily scenes and life of North Korea with the direct involvement of each one of you.

An exceptional opportunity to make international friends and show with your voice and hands the solidarity with the country and againts the imperialist policy of the US administration.

Few days ago, the National Television of Greece broadcasted the documentary that we recorded together three months ago. I'd like to share with you the results from important Greek magazines sent by the Director of the film, Mr. Andreas Bousios:

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*Vima (sunday edition 210.000 copies): Great job for
Andreas Bousios and for NET (the channel) We learn
everything that we did not know about North Korea.

*Eleptherotipia (sunday edition 180.000 copies:
Congratulations for the great job in North Korea.

*Elephteros Tipos (Sunday edition 150.000 copies)
Excelent job for NET and Andreas Bousios.

*Kathimerini (Thursday edition 10.000 copies, but one
of the great opinion maker newspaper):
We learn a lot of things that we didn't know about North Korea.
That they are common people they love electronic pop, etc. We hope not to see all these shootings as feedback in a future war.

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This is just a milestone in our difficult project of showing the REALITY of the DPRK and the situation of the peninsula against the daily inventions and stories created by the big imperialist machinery.

With your help we can do it, and teach more an more people what is the DPRK and how to respect the right to live in peace and following a social system which is based in human values, culture and union instead of individualism and money.

For this reason I ask for your help to spread our 'March for the Reunification of Korea' as far as you can. Send the following information to newspapers, Tv's, Radio or any other media. To friends, organizations, etc.

Even if this time you cannot partcipate for any reason, you can help us to let the world know that we'll continue raising our voices until Korea will be one and free from US domination.

Let me take this chance to send you my best regards with the confidence that united we'll change the history.

Alejandro Cao de Benos
President of the KFA
http://www.korea-dpr.com/kfa2004/
 
Was ist eigentlich an der Geschichte dran, dass Nord Korea schon die Atom Bombe haben soll?

Zum Thema kann ich eigentlich nicht viel sagen, da ich mich nicht sehr gut auskenne mit Nordkorea!
 
Dienstag 28. Oktober 2003, 11:05 Uhr

Japanerin beantragt in Nordkorea Asyl

(AFP) Ausgerechnet in Nordkorea hat eine Japanerin politisches Asyl beantragt, nachdem sie während einer China-Reise illegal über die Grenze gelangt war. Wie das japanische Außenministerium und die amtliche nordkoreanische Nachrichtenagentur KCNA am Dienstag berichteten, liegt der Vorfall bereits zwei Monate zurück. Doch erst am Montag seien die japanischen Behörden von dem Asylantrag der jungen Frau informiert worden, sagte ein Ministeriumssprecher in Tokio. Er bezeichnete den Fall als völlig ungewöhnlich.
 
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China has hunted down and arrested a North Korean defector who revealed the first documentary evidence of Pyongyang's chemical and biological experiments on political prisoners, said his supporters yesterday.

Kang Byong-sop, 59, was seized on the Chinese-Laotian border with his wife and youngest son, aged 25, last month after escaping from North Korea with proof that the Stalinist regime is killing political prisoners by experimenting on them with biological and chemical weapons. . . .

Mr Kim believes it was no coincidence that the senior border official was present. He is convinced that the Chinese authorities, alerted to the potential value of their prey, had been offered "a considerable financial inducement" to find Mr Kang.

"Mr Kang is easy to identify," Mr Kim said. "He has to walk bent almost double after interrogation in North Korea. On one occasion his back was broken and on another he was dropped on his head, snapping his neck."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...2.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/02/12/ixportal.html


"I witnessed a whole family being tested on suffocating gas and dying in the gas chamber. The parents, a son, and a daughter." The speaker is Kwon Hyuk, a former North Korean intelligence agent and a one-time administrator at Camp 22, the country's largest concentration camp. His testimony was heard on a television documentary that aired last week on the BBC. "The parents were vomiting and dying, but till the very last moment they tried to save the kids by doing mouth-to-mouth breathing."

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/02/08/an_auschwitz_in_korea/

David Hawk, who investigated Pol Pot’s crimes for the United Nations High Commission on Refugees (UNHCR) recently investigated North Korean labor camps and forced labor prisons on behalf of the U.S. Committee for Human Rights in North Korea. The report, The Hidden Gulag: Exposing North Korea’s Prison Camps, focuses on exile and defector interviews. All have first hand knowledge. All were guards or inmates or workers at the camps. There is physical evidence too – documents and reconnaissance photos confirm the accounts. It is physically sickening to read.

I've summarized it below. If you don't trust my version of it, then go read the whole report, and know that evil exists. Do me a favor though - don't try to turn this into some "Bush lied" contest. It's not about that. It's about something horrifying that most of us would rather not look at; which we could do something about if we gave a damn.

So enough of the preaching from me. Go ahead, read my summary of the report. Or read the whole thing if you have the stomach for it.

The Committee is a non-partisan non-governmental organization. It was formed in 2002 to “conduct independent research on human rights abuses in North Korea.” The board members are reputable citizens, including Congressmen, think tankers and respected NGO officials.

All of the prison forced labor camps are divided into one of three categories. Two hold political prisoners, mainly (political penal labor colonies), with scattered felons. The other type holds misdemeanants, those who failed to escape North Korea, and other political prisoners.

The political penal labor colonies hold prisoners either indefinitely, or for a fixed term of years.

The misdemeanant/escapee mixed camps are generally used for terms of fixed duration, but they are exceptionally brutal, even by North Korean standards. The death rate is “shockingly high;” as many as one in five prisoners in all the camps die, or are murdered by the guards / administrators each year. You do the math as to the actuarial table, for a prisoner sentenced to a typical five year term. Some escapees have reported a 4/5ths deathrate among their cadre.

The prisoners call all three types of prisons death camps. The deaths result partly from starvation (among an already chronically malnourished North Korean populace). Many deaths result at the hands of other inmates, who are encouraged to beat individual inmates as punishment, and to prey on each other, James Clavell “King Rat” style. Beatings by guards and literally unbelievable working conditions cause many other deaths.

For prisoners in the misdemeanant and penal labor colonies with fixed terms, there is little or no due process. Kangaroo courts are normal. Based on eyewitness testimony, 150,000 to 200,000 prisoners seem to be imprisoned under the political prisoner classification.

Prisoner labor typically involves “mining, logging, textile manufacturing, farming, or other industrial projects” performed under “dreadfully harsh conditions," exacerbated by planned, intentional starvation within the camps.

Misdemeanor and political offenses are often caused by famine conditions – things like stealing food or buying it on the black market. Hunger is a common theme in the report. Any unauthorized eating grass or grubs from an exercise area (which thwarts the planned starvation) may be punished with imprisonment. Famine related offenses are so common, that a network of informally established, locally operated and mostly undocumented local forced labor camps are established on an ad hoc basis to deal with famine related crime. The number of prisoners held in informal camps is unknown. They are impossible to document accurately at this time.

The treatment by guards is standard prison fare for persons incarcerated in an insane hermit kingdom / police state. Interrogations are expectedly horrifically brutal. Beatings are the most common interrogation tool, and are severe enough that inmates usually beg to be killed. When the guards get tired of beating prisoners, they organize prisoners in working parties, the order the working parties to beat their fellow prisoners as punishment, or during interrogation.

One nifty method of torture, reminiscent of the preparation of Ka Gogi, (Bulgogi prepared with dog meat) involves hanging an attempted escapee upside down. All the inmates in the camp file by and beat the inmate severely.

Strangulation and suffocation by water are common means of punishment and torture, as are beating the fingertips and feet.

Famine offenses aren’t the only political charges. Contact with South Koreans or their culture (e.g. South Korean radio) results in a prison term, and given the conditions, usually results in death. Failure to be sufficiently zealous about Great Leader Kim Jong Il also lands one in jail. Many of the charges are fabricated.

The camps destroy families – intentionally so. Kim Il Sung established a class and race structure when he gained power, and deemed certain races and classes superior or inferior. This political and racial/ethnic classification leads to an economic class structure.

Class isn’t necessarily racially or ethnically based. Certain classes labor under the presumption that they are counter-revolutionary betrayers of the government, because members of the class are part Chinese or part Japanese, or their families were politically suspect. The government believes in a racial / genetic theory of guilt (in effect the same sound theory relied upon by a lot of people who want to apportion guilt and innocence, benefits and detriments based on race.)

It works in inverse as well. Three generations of a political prisoner’s family may be imprisoned, tortured and killed as punishment for the prisoner’s actions. Parents of the “wrong” ethnicity, or parents whose own parents or grandparents were politically suspect, implies guilt.

Racism and suspect class hatred led directly to the horrific forced abortion policies. Failed escapees who are women, who happen to be pregnant when repatriated, undergo forced abortion or infanticide. This is rationalized thusly: the hated Han (Chinese) race may have impregnated the woman; therefore their spawn must be wiped out. The regime shouldn’t have to feed those born to the traitorous classes. The women themselves are exterminated just like male prisoners. It’s thought that killing the children of the traitorous classes is one way of stomping out the traitorous classes.

Pregnant women – even those pregnant by North Korean men - are given drugs to induce labor, and when the baby is delivered, it is thrown into a box to die, often with several other recently delivered babies. Occasionally, another female inmate will be forced to strangle a box full of delivered babies, which can range in gestational age from around four months, to full term. Participating in these actions appears to damage the mental health of such inmates. They simply break, there is no other term for what seems to happen to them.

Defectors report that the physical appearance of the prisoners is shocking. Amputations, hunchbacks and other deformities are common from malnutrition, frostbite, and harshly primitive working conditions. The prison culture has evolved into a bestial existence, with inmates turning on each other (and being encouraged to turn on each other) as informants or criminals, simply to live.

Forced labor textiles and industrial products from the labor camps are exported predominantly to the people the New York Times, John Kerry and Howard Dean remind us are our moral betters: France, Germany, and Russia, as well as to Poland.

So if you give a damn about it, if this bothers you, then do something about it. Write your congressman, write the president, contact the Committee, or even contact Amnesty International to get them pushing harder on this issue. Hell, I don't care, form a North Korean forced labor shanty town on your college campus. But whatever you do, even if you do nothing, don't just look away.

Evil may prosper when good men do nothing; but it especially prospers when good men can't even look at it and speak its name.

http://www.coldfury.com/Sasha/archives/004620.html#004620
 
wieso zeigen alle immer nur die schönen seiten eines landes hä hä hä hä hä...................wieso wird denn mal nicht so ne armen gegend gezeigt............ :shakehead: :shakehead: :shakehead: :shakehead: :shakehead: :shakehead: :shakehead: :shakehead: :shakehead:
 
(Wie viele Vietnamesen wurden ermordet im Krieg VSA/Vietnam? Wurden dort Massenvernichtungswaffen eingesetzt? Wurde dort systematisch die Zivilbevölkerung ausgelöscht? Worin unterscheidet sich das Vorgehen der VSA in Vietnam, von dem Vorgehen der Sowjetunion in den ehemaligen Ostblockstaaten, oder der Nazis in Osteuropa?

Das was in vietnam gescha war scheise.Das die amis viel dreck am stecken hat ist mir klar,aber mann kann es nicht mit dem verbrechen vergleichen die Sowjetunion und Deutschland getan haben.Ein Land der sich nach freiheit sehnt wird sich niemals mit einem Land der die Menschen unterdrückt verstehen.Die leute im Nordkorea tuen mir jedenfalls leid.Das schlimme ist sie kennen kein anderes Leben.
und dem medien glaub ich sowieso nicht weil mann nicht genau weis wer sich hinter ihnen verbirgt.
 
Heute abend kommt mal wider ne reportage über Nordkorea (was es ja sehr selten gibt)


21:15 ZDF AUSLANDSJOURNAL
 
Der aufmerksame ARTE Zuschauer, hätte gestern einen klasse Bericht über Nord Korea gucken können.
Leider ist ARTE für einige zu UNCOOL und gucken lieber RTL2.... :neutral:
 
Arte ist kool. Da war mal ein Bericht über China und Mao. Hat 4 sstunden gedauert. Es was grotesk. Wie ein schlechter kitsch film..

Dr.Wolf, DOCH das kann man vergleichen. Ihr wisst ja gar nicht was da alles ablief.. Systemathische zerstörung der Dörfer, dauereinsatz von Giftgas..Die haben da mehr Bomben und anderes abgeworfen als im 2 WK insgesamt.

/ajk
 
Der Bericht auf ARTE war die komplette Reportage,das was heute auf ZDF gezeigt wird ist nur ein Teil davon
 
Da ich zurzeit kein Fernsehen habe, kann ich das leider nicht gucken, ich erinnere mich aber an eine ziemlich einseitige schlechte Nordkorea Reportage auf der ARD ..

Ich kann nur jedem mal meinen Artikel empfehlen, der sich noch nicht wirklich auskennt und sich nicht von einseitiger Propaganda blenden lassen will ;)

http://www.nfriends.de/koreanews/nordkorea_korea.nfriends.de.pdf
 
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