GC - Games Convention Leipzig 08

[Breac]

Ganz ehrlich, von der Geschichte her und von der Einflussnahme wird es sicher ein revolutionäres Spiel, vom Gameplay her hört es sich irgendwie langweilig an mit Reaktionstests etc.

 

[KrateroZ]

Von Quantic Dreams kann man schon einiges erwarten - ich bin gespannt

@PoP:
Werde ich sofort zum Launch kaufen 8)!

 

[wsippel]

Von Quantic Dreams kann man schon einiges erwarten - ich bin gespannt

Als alter Adventure-Fan erwarte ich von Quantic Dream zugegebenermaßen ziemlich genau gar nichts. Obwohl das Spiel zumindest grafisch einen sehr ordentlichen Eindruck macht, und viel, viel besser aussieht als die alte Techdemo.

 

[Masukad]

Ganz ehrlich, von der Geschichte her und von der Einflussnahme wird es sicher ein revolutionäres Spiel, vom Gameplay her hört es sich irgendwie langweilig an mit Reaktionstests etc.

wird es wirklich nur komplett aus QTEs (und dazwischen zwischensequenzen ) bestehen? auch hab ich nicht gesehen, was an den QTEs von HR innovativ sein soll. sie knöpfe bewegen sich jetzt, sonst sehe ich keinen unterschied.

 

[troop69]

Die Sony PK war DER brüller

Singstar auf Türkisch und ne schlecht kopierte tastatur fürn controller

heavy rain war aber ganz gut

 

[KrateroZ]

Als alter Adventure-Fan erwarte ich von Quantic Dream zugegebenermaßen ziemlich genau gar nichts. Obwohl das Spiel zumindest grafisch einen sehr ordentlichen Eindruck macht, und viel, viel besser aussieht als die alte Techdemo.

Doch, ich erwarte einiges von Quantic Dreams

Die Grafik selbst ist nur Mittel zum Zweck.

 

[Darji]

wird es wirklich nur komplett aus QTEs (und dazwischen zwischensequenzen ) bestehen? auch hab ich nicht gesehen, was an den QTEs von HR innovativ sein soll. sie knöpfe bewegen sich jetzt, sonst sehe ich keinen unterschied.

nein es ist kein interaktiver Film. Es ist so, wie ein normales Adventure game nur eben mit einer ungeheuren Interaktivität, in der du durch deine Handlungen, den Verlauf der Geschicht beeinflußt.

Zum Beispiel gab es in der Demo unzählige Wege. Man konnte sich irgendwo verstecken, den Angreifer töten, die Polizei anrufen, einfach fliehen oder was auch immer.^^

1 Up Preview^^

Yet with little more than a promise of "themes never used in games before," I find myself as excited for the game as I have been for any in recent memory, and the majority of that comes from the similarities to Indigo Prophecy. That game wasn't without its faults, but conceptually, it was incredibly refreshing, and it's rare to see a game that experimental with a significant budget behind it, which added up to one of the most memorable games I've ever played. And now to see that approach evolve, with some of the best graphics in the industry, makes Heavy Rain hard not to like.
I'm not sure if my excitement comes from Quantic Dream's talent, or because they are the only ones attempting games of this sort, but there's something important worth paying attention to here

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=1&cId=3169463&p=.

 

[Vorlone]

Nach dem Video finde ich dass bei HR nur die Frau sehr gut aussieht. Der Rest sieht IMO durchschnittlich aus, keine Ahnung warum einige hier eine Grafikownage sehen wollen. Bei KZ2 kann ichs ja verstehen, das ist stellenweise brilliant aber das hier, nee
Das Gameplay selbst wird wohl Geschmackssache werden.

 

[GSoda]

Naja nachdem FF13 ja für 360 rauskommt ist HR noch das einzige Game wo ich zumindest ein wenig traurig bin das Sony und nicht MS den Geldbeutel aufgemacht hat.

Mir hat Fahrenheit schon ziemlich Spaß gemacht...

 

[Darji]

Referenz was die Charaktere angeht. Aber trotzdem sieht es im Gesamtbild wirklich sehr sehr gut aus^^

Spoiler

 

[troop69]

Naja nachdem FF13 ja für 360 rauskommt ist HR noch das einzige Game wo ich zumindest ein wenig traurig bin das Sony und nicht MS den Geldbeutel aufgemacht hat.

Mir hat Fahrenheit schon ziemlich Spaß gemacht...

vielleicht ist es ja auch nur zeitexklusiv, sowie bioshock es war :O

 

[wsippel]

nein es ist kein interaktiver Film. Es ist so, wie ein normales Adventure game nur eben mit einer ungeheuren Interaktivität, in der du durch deine Handlungen, den Verlauf der Geschicht beeinflußt.

Zum Beispiel gab es in der Demo unzählige Wege. Man konnte sich irgendwo verstecken, den Angreifer töten, die Polizei anrufen, einfach fliehen oder was auch immer.^^

Ich warte mal lieber ab, bis unabhängige Journalisten ohne Vorgaben auf eigene Faust eine Weile gespielt haben, um einschätzen zu können, wie interaktiv und nonlinear das Spiel tatsächlich ist. Derlei Versprechungen habe ich in den letzten zwei Dekaden schon oft gehört, aber am Ende hat's nie wirklich funktioniert, oder es war eigentlich doch sehr eingeschränkt - Multiple Choice halt. Und ich wüsste nicht, warum es ausgerechnet jetzt ausgerechnet Quantic Dream schaffen sollte. Wenn's so ist: Toll! Aber ich glaube es erst, wenn ich es sehe. Das kurze Video oder eine kurze Präsentation für Pressevertreter reichen nicht.

 

[Darji]

@Wisspi: Für dich wird es eh erst toll, wenn es auf dem Wii mit Fuchtelsteuerung erscheint

 

[Darji]

vielleicht ist es ja auch nur zeitexklusiv, sowie bioshock es war :O

nein, da es von Sony selbst kommt bzw sie es publishen^^

 

[troop69]

nein, da es von Sony selbst kommt bzw sie es publishen^^

Heavy Rain Sigma wird es denn heißen

 

[klobrille]

Ich dachte, es sollte 11 neue Ankündigungen geben?

Irgendwie hätten sie sich die PK auch sparen können ... Was wirklich neu war, war Heavy Rain-Material (Release Ende 09 ... Brauch ich mich noch nicht mit beschäftigen) und die kopierte Tastatur. Hm

 

[Biglinker]

Hm ist vielleicht jemand schon zufällig beim FOG Studios stand vorbei gelaufen ? Ich frage mich nur was sich jetzt Nibris macht....

Diese Unwissenheit ob es überhaupt existiert macht mich fast wahnsinnig... Dabei sind die Erwartungen recht hoch....

 

[GiantCrab]

OMG, Schon wieder nen neues PSP modell?
OK, jetzt weiß ich wenigstens was ich mir zu weihnachten kaufe.
Edelhandheld halt, ich weiß nicht warum, aber ich hatte schonmal drei gleichzeitig, jetzt hab ich nurnoch ne schwarze slim. ;-)

Weiße PSP-3000, ich komme.

Need for speed undercover hat traler, die mir spontan gefallen, hm, vielleicht gibt sich ea mal wieder mühe. ;-)

 

[Darji]

Immer wenn man denkt, dass LBP nicht noch genialer werden kann, Setzt MM noch einen drauf^^

LittleBigPlanet Sackzilla Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXp4ednGYcc

 

[Darji]

ein letztes HR Preview^^

IGN Preview und wahrscheinlich das beste, dass Gameplay und atmo beschreibt^^

US, August 20, 2008 - Ever since the Casting Call technical demonstration was shown a few years ago, PS3 owners have been eagerly awaiting the opportunity to learn more about Heavy Rain, the next mysterious and chilling project from developer Quantic Dream. While we originally didn't have any information on how the game would play or what it would entail, I had the privilege of attending a meeting with David Cage, Writer and Director of Heavy Rain, to learn more about the project and even watch a demonstration of the game in action. Although a great deal of material is still a mystery to me, I have to admit that it was pretty astounding to see what Quantic Dream has been up to.

Cage explained that Quantic Dream is interested in stories that can be played, demonstrating subtle emotions in real-time. He prefaced the demo by stating that Heavy Rain will be an adult/mature emotional thriller with five overriding points involved within the design. First, it will be a story-driven experience that is provided not necessarily through cutscenes but through player action. Second, players' actions will have (serious) consequences. Third, the experience will be emotionally driven and will invoke a dramatic response in the player. Fourth, the story and subject matter are very much adult in nature. Lastly, the game will be broadly accessible to a wide variety of players. The challenge will play out in the player's mind, not on the controller.

Cage also clearly noted that the demo we were going to watch was not going to be part of the proper plot of Heavy Rain. It was a special bonus scene created specifically for the demo and would not play a part in the actual storyline. Cage and his team didn't want to reveal anything about the story just yet, besides the aforementioned themes.

Before the demo began, Cage ended his preface by touching on Quantic Dream's idea of a "bending story." You will have full "control" over the story, but the overall plot will never be changed through interactivity. Cage compared it to a rubber band. Although you can stretch and deform it, it will always be a rubber band. The same holds true for the plot of Heavy Rain.

And then the main menu came onto the screen. The subtitle of the demo was "The Origami Killer."

Cage jokingly said that as unsure as the team was about their game, they're completely confident that they've made the best main menu. Despite the light-hearted nature of this comment, I was inclined to agree, because it really was an incredible menu and teased at the experience to come. A close-up shot on a woman's face dominated its background as she looked frantically around at unseen sights. The detail in her eyes and expressions was truly astonishing. I could even see the moisture in the corner of her eyes and the effect was beyond words. Simple white text sat humbly on the bottom of the screen as haunting piano music trickled through the speakers. I could already tell that we were in for a ride. As the game booted up, Cage commented casually that Heavy Rain will never have to load. Once you've begun, you play through the entire game without a single loading segment.

The demo began with a motorcycle weaving in and out of traffic on a rain-swept highway. The woman driving answered a call on a headset as she rode, talking to a co-worker about a lead she had for tracking down a potential murder suspect. The call was brief and established the fact that this woman, Madison, was gutsy and would be willing to risk her life for this chilling story.

Arriving in a small suburban area, Madison dismounted from her bike and removed her helmet, revealing a beautiful young woman with short cut hair and round, expressive eyes. Taking a few breaths, she prepared to investigate the unassuming house that stood before her in the rain. The suspect was a certain Mr. White, a taxidermist, and numerous missing women could be connected to him if the evidence was solid enough.

Then, the player was in control -- with little indication one could actually begin guiding Madison around freely. The first thing I noticed was the incredible camera system, which changed on occasion to different, highly dramatic angles from a number of atypical locations, like from the house down the street. Cage explained that the first innovation we would see was the way one makes Madison move: with a trigger. Pulling a trigger would cause Madison to walk forward, regardless of her orientation. That way, the constantly shifting camera wouldn't disorient the player when they try to move around with a stick. Rather, the stick is used for rotating Madison's head. She'll walk in the direction she's looking, so movement is done in this manner.

The system looked to be a bit disorienting at first (even the gentleman giving the demo got turned around a few times), but it looked very promising and the potential strengths of this unorthodox mechanic are obvious. All of Madison's animations were virtually perfect, as she moved, reacted and looked around with stunning realism. Even her idle animation outside was awesome -- crossing her legs for warmth and holding her hand out in the rain.

Madison looked around the front of the house and checked the mailbox. This was our first look at how the interaction of this game would take place. Whenever Madison would approach an interactive element, a small directional queue would fade into view on the bottom right corner of the screen. Pushing that direction would coax Madison to do that action. Speed and rhythm counted in these sections. For example, you could open the mailbox very slowly or quickly; even though the segment looked like a cutscene, you were still in control.

From just a few minutes of searching, Madison found women's catalogues in the mail and discarded heels in the garbage. With a note of caution, Madison proceeded up to the front door. Most of the following actions were completely controllable during the demo -- even elements that seemed like they were relegated to cutscenes.

On the front porch, Madison knocked on the door but didn't get a response. The next element of interactivity was revealed here, when a separate queue popped up on the lower left corner of the screen. A set of words were written in a circle around the small icon of a controller. Tilting the controller in the direction of a word or phrase would make Madison speak those words. She called out White's name and yelled hello a few times before walking away. After checking a few more things around the front, Madison headed into the backyard.

Finding that the back window was too high, Madison -- again, using contextual directional inputs and movement controls -- moved a few barrels over to the window in order to make it into the house. Tapping a button repeatedly, she forced the pane open and slid inside.

Looking around, Madison made a few notes into her recorder and worked her way though the home. Again, you can interact with a number of different things, but what you do is completely up to you. Madison slowly walked upstairs and -- after noting the creaking floorboards -- proceeded to explore the upper floor. Then the attractive journalist made a chilling discovery.

Upon entering the bathroom, she discovered a body in the tub, blood coating the porcelain like paint. It was here in the demo that I found Origami Killer to be the most powerful. The emotional response of Madison as she nervously spoke into her recorder was incredible. Seeing her eyes dart around and hearing her charming voice suddenly falter expressed the perfect emotional tone.

The investigation came to a close when Madison arrived at the bedroom. It was filled with the corpses of women, properly stuffed, preserved and positioned around the room in utterly twisted normalcy. After taking a few pictures, Madison prepared to leave. And then (of course) the killer showed up at the home. Once he entered the house, the screen split in two and began to show White's actions on one side and Madison's panicked actions on the other. While White went about his daily routine, you needed to decide how to escape alive. Cage explained that there are a number of different actions you could take, but during the first run-through, Madison tip-toed over the creaky floor, snuck downstairs and made it outside. Jumping onto her motorcycle and with a few well-executed QTEs later, Madison escaped unscathed.

But that was just one possibility. Cage brought the demo back and showed us that Madison could be discovered by White, she could fight him, or she could even die. Seeing Madison fight the knife-wielding killer was pretty thrilling, because buttons associated with particular items on screen would animate on top of those objects. For example, after being knocked onto the bed, Madison madly clawed for something to defend herself with. As the killer reared back, the camera shook around and you could make out a button prompt stuck to the side of a nearby vase. Hitting it in time would cause Madison to snatch it up and crash it against White's head, buying her more time to escape.

My descriptions can't properly convey how atmospheric and emotional Heavy Rain (Origami Killer) was. This is a game you need to experience yourself. Sure, at its roots, it's just an adventure game, but its execution is brilliant so far. Cage ended the demonstration by noting that there will be around sixty scenes like that to play through and no matter what happened, there would never be a game over. Even having a character die, the story would continue on and be influenced by your actions.

Heavy Rain will be exclusive to the PS3 and I can't wait to play it from start to finish. The designers of Quantic Dream might have an emotional masterpiece on their hands.

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/898/898580p2.html

na alle Fragen zum gameplay beantwortet?^^