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Ich war schon bei zweien dabei und kenne das Gefühl des geleerten Bankkontos und der Spiele, die man zwar hat aber bis heute nie gespielt hat. :sorry:
 
Vale zum Thema "Valve Time"

Valve Time - the term coined by fans to describe the seemingly endless development of the Half-Life maker's games.

But what does Valve itself think of Valve Time? Is it happy about it? Sad? And how did it become a thing?

At the Develop conference in Brighton business development chief Jason Holtman told Eurogamer Valve loves the Valve Time tag - so much so that it values it.

"Valve Time is interesting," Holtman said. "To my mind, an interesting thing about being on the inside of Valve and working there quite a while is, what we're always concerned with is doing what's right for the customer; doing what's right for the product. And people get an idea of Valve Time because they're very used to how maybe other people work and bring things out. Other people have much more formalised schedules. They have dates they have like lines in the sand because of their structures.

"When we get up to that, we may fully say at an E3 or a GDC, here's a game coming out and here's when we think it is. And then it doesn't come out for a year. Or it doesn't come out in the fall, it comes out in the spring. Hence we get tagged with Valve Time.

"The reason for that is because it's odd. It's an oddity. In other cases what it means is people are usually slipping and it drives people nuts, because they're so used to being able to predict when that comes out. In our minds we say, that's not important. It's actually not super important if this thing comes out on the Christmas where we said it would come out last year and we thought that's when it was. What's actually more important is we build it right and it comes out in spring."

Holtman described Valve Time as "charming" and "kind of a compliment". "We like it," he continued.

"We also value it. If the end result is, we get tagged a little bit of like, we can't tell when you're coming out or you take longer, that's okay with us. Because we're trusting the fact that when it takes longer, it will be better. The thing that is ultimately consumed and played with, customers will like it better - like it better than the thing we could have shipped them a year ago.

"We would infinitely rather have happy customers for decades, rather than a happy batch of customers at one Christmas.

"We try as hard as we can to make the best thing possible in the right time frame and get people content they want to consume. And if that takes longer, that's fine."

What fans don't see, Holtman said, is that sometimes products or features take less time than Valve expected. "Sometimes we'll have a feature and it'll surprise us how quickly we can get something built and out to the community, or get an update out and out to the community.

"So there's no mandate or, we're just going to take longer, everything takes longer, like a fine wine mandate in the old commercials. I don't think that's what it is at all. What we're just saying is, we're going to do it when it's ready, and we're going to do it when we think you're going to like it, and we're going to do it when we think it's best.
"Hence Valve Time."

The concept of Valve Time applies most to Half-Life 3 (or, Half-Life 2: Episode 3, we're not sure at this point). It's been five long years since the release of Episode 2. A trilogy of episodes was promised some six years ago.

With nary a whiff of a status update on the future of the series in so long, comment threads and forums are littered with requests for the game. So much so, that you often see fans call for news on Half-life 3 in response to announcements for other Valve games or features.

Does it grind Valve down?

"It's a high compliment," Holtman said. "Having customers consistently looking at our property or something you've done and saying, can you give me more? Can you do that thing again? Every time we hear it we say thank you. I don't think it grinds us down at all. We're constantly saying, are you happy? Are we making the best things we can? Are we working with the best partners to bring you what you want?

"When people keep saying, yeah I want that too, that's how we hear it. We hear it as, that is people saying they want tickets to their favourite concert. They want to see that again. We hear it all the time. I don't think it grinds us down at all. I do think we take it as a very serious, very heartfelt compliment from folks. They're cheering for us. That's what that is."

So, what's taking so long?

"No. See now I'm being cagey."


"We would infinitely rather have happy customers for decades, rather than a happy batch of customers at one Christmas."

Daran könnten sich viele Publisher mal n beispiel nehmen *hust* EA *hust* Activision *hust*

Valve :love:
 
Bin zwar schon ziemlich lange bei Steam dabei, aber hab bis letztes Weihnachten nie einen Sale mitgemacht, da ich digitale Versionen gehasst habe :-D

Nunja, so schnell ändert sich meine Meinung ^^

Wollt jetzt mal fragen ob es denn die Regel ist, das die Games schon vorher geleakt werden, bzw. spätestens Day1 klar ist welche Games kommen? Oder muss ich jeden Tag gespannt warten was denn neues kommt? Das grenzt ja an Folter xD
 
Daran könnten sich viele Publisher mal n beispiel nehmen *hust* EA *hust* Activision *hust*

EA hat es sich doch gerade zur Aufgabe gemacht, den Hass von allen Ultima Fans auf sich zu ziehen :ugly:


Wollt jetzt mal fragen ob es denn die Regel ist, das die Games schon vorher geleakt werden, bzw. spätestens Day1 klar ist welche Games kommen? Oder muss ich jeden Tag gespannt warten was denn neues kommt? Das grenzt ja an Folter xD

nö, die ganzen Spielebundles und Indiebundles werden/wurden geleaked. Aber die eigentlichen Tagesdeals werden genauso wie bei den ganzen Midweek und Weekend Sales nicht geleaked.
 
Wollt jetzt mal fragen ob es denn die Regel ist, das die Games schon vorher geleakt werden, bzw. spätestens Day1 klar ist welche Games kommen? Oder muss ich jeden Tag gespannt warten was denn neues kommt? Das grenzt ja an Folter xD

Ein paar Spiele sind sichere Kandidaten, aber im Normalfall gits keine Leaks, außer die Bundles.
EA hat es sich doch gerade zur Aufgabe gemacht, den Hass von allen Fans auf sich zu ziehen :ugly:

Fixed :v:
 
Wie man aus dem aktuellen Trailer zu THPS HD ersehen kann wird das spiel auch auf Steam erscheinen:

[video=youtube;U2RoAlYswBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2RoAlYswBE[/video]

Vermutlich wird es wie die PS3 version im August erscheinen da MS ja Exklusivrechte hat (Summer of Arcade)
 
ich hoffe telltale haut nen schönes package raus. will walking dead, monkey island, jurassic park und back to the future.
dann über nen verbilligtes endless space würde ich mich freuen
alan wake american nightmare.
wargame european conflict
quantum condorum
dirt 3
ruse
deponia
insanely twisted shadow planet

sind die restlichen die ich gerne haben würde^^
 
Jurassic Park kann ich jeden nur vor warnen und abraten.
Hab ich letzte Archivements Hunt ercraftet und dann für das Archivement gespielt. Es war neben SpaceChem der größte Scheiß, den ich zu der Hunt gespielt habe und auch eines der wenigen Spiele, welches ich direkt nach aufpoppen des Archivements wieder gelöscht habe (bei den meisten sage ich mir, lass sie drauf, mangelt dir ja nun wirklich nicht an Speicher und wer weiß, wann du sie mal wieder zocken magst.)
 
Wollt jetzt mal fragen ob es denn die Regel ist, das die Games schon vorher geleakt werden, bzw. spätestens Day1 klar ist welche Games kommen? Oder muss ich jeden Tag gespannt warten was denn neues kommt? Das grenzt ja an Folter xD

Wird leider nicht bekannt.
Am besten sucht man sich am ersten Tag des Deals die Spiele raus, die einen interessieren und wartet dann ab, ob sie im Verlauf des Deals noch billiger werden an einem Tag. Wenn nicht, kauft man sie sich am letzten Tag des Deals.
 
Naja. Dazu gibt es halt noch die geleakten Bundles:

1C Collection - $39.99 - Cryostasis, Men of War series, NecroVisioN, Kings Bounty series, Theatre of War series, Rig 'n' Roll, Space Rangers 2 Reboot,

2K Games & Rockstar "Public Released" Pack (may not be a pack but recently updated) - no price yet - Bioshock, Bioshock 2, Borderlands & DLC, Bully, Civilization IV Complete, Civilization V & DLC, Civ V Gods and Kings, CivCity: Rome, Darkness II, Duke Nukem Forever & DLC, Freedom Force Pack, Grand Theft Auto series, LA Noire, Mafia II & DLC, Max Payne 1 and 2 (not 3 though), Manhunt, Midnight Club 2, MLB series, NBA series, Railroad Tycoon 2, Railroad Tycoon 3, Shattered Union, Sid Meier's Pirates!, Sid Meier's Railroads!, SpecOps: The Line, Stronghold Pack, X-ComCollection

2K Pack 2 (think this has been replaced with the '2K Collection' below) - no price yet - Bionshock 2, Darkness II Limited Edition, Duke Nukem Forever, Mafia II, SpecOps: The Line

2K Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Bionshock 2, Borderlands, Civilization V & DLC (not Gods & Kings), Darkness II Limited Edition, Duke Nukem Forever, Mafia II, SpecOps: The Line

Activision Hits Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Blur, Call of Duty, Call of Duty: United Offensive, Call of Duty 2, Gun, Prototype, Singularity, Timeshift, Transformers: War For Cybertron, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Alan Wake Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Alan Wake, Collectors Edition upgrade, Alan Wake's American Nightmare

Anno 2070 Pack - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Anno 2070, The Keeper Package, The Development Package, The Eden Series Package, The Central Statistical Package, The Crisis Response Package, The Distrust Series Package, The Silent Running Package, The Nordamark Line Package, The E.V.E. Package

Batman / Gotham City Imposters Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Batman: Arkham Asylum, Batman: Arkham City & DLC, Gotham City Imposters

Bethesda Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Brink & DLC, Hunted: The Demon's Forge, Fallout: New Vegas & DLC, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Binding of Isaac Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Binding of Isaac, Wrath of the Lamb, Soundtrack

BioShock Franchise Pack - $99.99 (placeholder price) - BioShock, BioShock 2

Bit Trip Beat Pack - $9.99 - Bit Trip Beat plus soundtrack

Bit Trip Runner Pack - $9.99 - Bit Trip Runner plus soundtrack

Bit Trip Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Bit Trip Beat, Bit Trip Runner, soundtracks

Blendo Games Pack - no price yet - Airforte, Atom Zombie Smasher, Flotilla

Call of Duty: Black Ops Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Call of Duty: Black Ops, First Strike DLC, Escalation DLC, Rezurrection DLC, Annihilation DLC, mod tools

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (no DLC included)

Carpe Fulgur Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Chantelise, Recettear, Fortune Summoners

Civilization Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price - Civilization III Complete, Civilization IV Complete, Civilization V plus DLC (but not Gods & Kings)

Command & Conquer Franchise Pack - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars, Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath, Command & Conquer Red Alert 3, Command & Conquer Red Alert 3: Uprising, Command & Conquer 4

Cyan Complete Pack 2012 - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Real Myst, Myst Masterpiece Edition, Myst V, Riven, Uru, Spelunx, Manhole, Cosmic Osmo

Cyanide Studios Compilation - no price yet - A Game of Thrones, Blood Bowl: Dark Elves Edition, Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition, Loki, Pro Cycling Manager 2008, Pro Cycling Manager 2012

Dawn of War Franchise Pack - $29.99 - Dawn of War I series and Dawn of War II series plus DLC

Deep Silver Compilation - no price yet - Dead Island & DLC, Emergency 2012, Iron Front, Jane's Advanced Strike Fighters, Lost Horizon, Nail'd, Risen, Risen 2, Rush for Berlin, Sacred 2, Secret Files, Secret Files 2, The Dark Eye, The Whispered World

Duke Nukem Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Duke Nukem Forever plus DLC

Dungeon Defenders Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Dungeon Defenders plus all released DLC

Europa Universalis 3 Chronicles - no price yet - Europa Universalis 3 Complete, EU3 Divine Wind, EU3 Heir to the Throne

Fable III Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Fable: The Lost Chapters, Fable III & DLC

Focus Hit Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - A Game of Thrones, Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition, Cities XL 2012, Runaway: A Road Adventure, Runaway: A Twist of Fate, Runaway: The Dream of the Turtle, Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper, The Next BIG Thing, Wargame: European Escalation, Yesterday

Gratuitous Battle Pack - $39.99 (placeholder price) - Gratuitous Space Battles, Gratuitous Tank Battles

GTA IV Complete Pack - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Grand Theft Auto IV, Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City

Indie Bundle Day 1 - $39.99 (placeholder price) - The Baconing, EDGE, Anomaly Warzone Earth, Cave Story +, Lone Survivor

Indie Bundle Day 2 - $39.99 (placeholder price) - Universe Sandbox, E.Y.E, Oil Rush, Botanicula, Splice

Indie Bundle Day 3 - $39.99 (placeholder price) - Braid, Bit Trip Bat, Runespell Overture, Bunch of Heroes, Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet

Indie Bundle Day 4 - $39.99 (placeholder price) - Atom Zombie Smasher, Sanctum, Blocks That Matter, Sword and Sowrcery (& soundtrack), A Valley Without Wind

Indie Bundle Day 5 - $39.99 (placeholder price)t - Audiosurf, Greed Corp, Gemini Rue, The Tiny Bang Story, Ys: The Oath in Felghana

Indie Bundle Day 6 - $39.99 (placeholder price) - DEFCON, Awesome (AAAaaAAaaaaAAAa for the Awesome?), SpaceChem, TRAUMA, Ticket to Ride

Indie Bundle Day 7 - $39.99 (placeholder price) - Zombie Driver, Dungeons of Dredmor, Vessel, Avadon: The Black Fortress, QUBE

Indie Bundle Day 8 - $39.99 (placeholder price) - Wings of Prey, Hoard, Swords and Soldiers, Demolition Inc, Sol Exodus

Indie Bundle Day 9 - $39.99 (placeholder price) - Zeno Clash, VVVVVV, Revenge of the Titans, Jamestown, Capsized

Indie Bundle Day 10 - $39.99 (placeholder price) - Machinarium, Eufloria, Beat Hazard, Bit Trip Runner, All Zombies Must Die

Indie Bundle Day 11 - $39.99 (placeholder price) - World of Goo, Star Ruler, Hydrophobia, Orion, Waveform

Indie Fright Pack - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Burn Zombie Burn, The Path, The Scourge Project, The Void, Zombie Driver

Kalypso Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Tropico 3, Tropico 4 & Modern Times DLC, Dungeons, Dungeons: The Dark Lord, Jagged Alliance: Back in Action, SkyDrift, Airline Tycoon 2, Port Royale 3, Bang Bang Racing, Disciples 3 Resurrection

Killing Floor Bundle - $19.99 - Killing Floor, Outbreak Character Pack, Nightfall Character Pack, Post Mortem Character Pack, London's Finest Character Pack, Defence Alliance 2, Steampunk Mr. Froster DLC,Christmas Character Pack, Urban Nightmare Character Pack, Harold Lott Character Pack

Majesty Franchise Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Majesty Gold, Majesty HD, Majesty 2, Defenders of Ardania & DLC, Warlock: Master of the Arcane & DLC

Microsoft Flight Summer Sale Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Microsoft Flight Hawaiian Adventure DLC, Maule M-7-260C, North American P-51 Mustang, Mitsubishi A6M2 Zero, Microsoft Flight: Alaskan Wilderness, Curtiss P-40, F4U Corsair

Nancy Drew Collector Pack - $19.99 (placeholder price?) - Nancy Drew: Danger by Design, Nancy Drew: Last Train to Blue Moon Canyon, Nancy Drew: The Haunted Carousel, Nancy Drew: The Curse of Blackmoor Manor, Nancy Drew: Danger on Deception Island, Nancy Drew: Ghost Dogs of Moon Lake, Nancy Drew: Legend of the Crystal Skull, Nancy Drew: Lights, Camera, Curses, Nancy Drew: Secret of the Old Clock, Nancy Drew: Secret of the Scarlet Hand, Nancy Drew: The Creature of Kapu Cave, Nancy Drew: The Haunting of Castle Malloy, Nancy Drew: The Phantom of Venice, Nancy Drew: The White Wolf of Icicle Creek, Nancy Drew: Ransom of the Seven Ships, Nancy Drew: Resorting to Danger, Nancy Drew: Trail of the Twister, Nancy Drew: Warnings at Waverly Academy, Nancy Drew: Shadow at the Water's Edge

Nordic Hit Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Agatha Christie games, Aquanox, Aquanox 2, Gothic, Gothic II, Gothic III, Gothic 4 Arcania & expansion, Aura, Chaser, Painkiller games, Safecracker, Safecracker 2, Spaceforce, Spellforce Platinum, Spellforce 2 Gold, The Guild II, Guild II Renaissance, Guild II Pirates of the European Seas

Paradox Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Crusader Kings II, Defenders of Ardania, Europa Universalis III Complete plus Divine Wind, Gettysburg: Armored Warfare, Magicka Collection, Mount & Blade Series, Naval War Arctic Circle, Sword of the Stars II, Warlock - Masters of the Arcane

Pendulo Adventure Pack - $29.99 - Runaway: A Road Adventure, Runaway: The Dream of the Turtle, Runaway: A Twist of Fate, The Next BIG Thing, Yesterday

Perfect World Collection - no price yet - Forsaken World, Rusty Hearts, Blacklight Retribution & Starter Pack

Railworks 3 - Summer Sale Collection - $39.99 - Railworks 3 plus 27 DLCs

Red Orchestra Franchise Pack - $39.99 - Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45, Mare Nostrum, Darkest Hour, Red Orchestra 2 plus Digital Deluxe DLC

Ridge Racer Unbounded Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Ridge Racer Unbounded plus 4 DLCs

Rockstar Hit Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Grand Theft Auto IV, Episodes from Liberty City, L.A. Noire, Max Payne 3

Saints Row The Third Franchise Pack - $14.99 - Saints Row The Third plus all (I think) DLC - 17 DLCs in total

SEGA Hit Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Aliens vs Predator, Binary Domain, Empire Total War & DLC, Medieval 2 Total War & Kingdoms, Napoleon Total War & DLC, Rome Total War Gold & Alexander, Total War Shogun 2 & Battle Pack DLC, Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai, Renegade Ops, Sonic Generations, Various Genesis/Megadrive games

Square Hit Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Deus Ex, Deus Ex: Invisible War, Deus Ex: Human Revolution Augmented Edition plus DLC, Hitman, Hitman 2, Hitman Blood Money, Just Cause 2 plus DLC, Lara Croft & the Guardian of Light plus DLC, Quantum Conundrum & soundtrack, Thief Gold, Thief II, Thief Deadly Shadows, Tomb Raider Legend, Tomb Raider Anniversary, Tomb Raider Underworld

Sniper Elite Franchise Pack - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Sniper Elite, Sniper Elite V2 & Pre-order rifles

Space Marine Pack - $39.99 - Space Marine plus all DLC

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Bundle - $39.99 (placeholder price) - S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky, S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat

Stardock Collection - $39.99 - Demigod, Galactic Civilizations II Ultimate Edition, Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion

Strategy First Complete Pack - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Dangerous Waters, Space Empires IV Deluxe, Disciples II, Iron Warriors, Space Empires V, 688I Hunter-Killer, Fleet Command, Sub Command, Birth of America, Flatout, Flatout 2, Flatout Ultimate Carnage, Flatout 3, Ghost Master, Vegas: Make it Big, Making History, Making History 2, Ducati World Championship, Culpa Innata, Sacred Gold, Darkstar One, Jack Keane, Jagged Alliance 2 Gold, Exodus From the Earth, Perimeter 2, Ankh: Heart of Osiris, Ankh: Battle of the Gods, BC Kings, Port Royale 2, 9th Company - Roots of Terror, Puzzle Kingdoms, Patrician III, The Great Art Race, Bad Rats, Razor 2, Chocolatier: Decadence by Design, Cooking Dash, Diaper Dash, Diner Dash, Dream Chronicles, Emerald City Confidential, Wandering Willows, Wedding Dash 2, Zenerchi, DinerTown Tycoon, DinerTown Detective Agency, Nightshift Code, Nightshift Legacy, Fitness Dash, Parking Dash, Mahjong Roadshow, Trijinx, Valerie Porter, Gemini Lost, Ironclads Collection, Dimensity, Hazen, World Basketball Manager 2010, Dark Fall: Lost Souls, Zombie Pirates, Hotel Dash, Deep Black, Fireburst

Sword of the Stars Franchise Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Sword of the Stars Complete, Sword of the Stars II: Lords of Winter, Immersion Pack DLCs

Tale of Tales Complete Pack - no price yet - The Graveyard, The Path, Fatale

Team Fortress 2 - Summer Community Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Team Fortress 2, Summer 2012 Community Bundle DLC, Premium DLC

Team Fortress 2 - Summer Sale Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Team Fortress 2, Summer 2012 Sale Bundle DLC, Premium DLC

TellTale Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Back to the Future, Jurassic Park, Puzzle Agent, Puzzle Agent 2, Tales of Monkey Island, The Walking Dead

THQ Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Darksiders, Dawn of War II series, Space Marine, Nexuiz, Homefront, Saints Row: The Third, Metro 2033, Company of Heroes Series, Titan Quest

Total War: Shogun 2 Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Total War: Shogun 2, Rise of the Samurai DLC, Fall of the Samurai expansion pack, Dragon War Battle Pack

Trine Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Trine, Trine 2

Ubisoft Collection - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Assassin's Creed Revelations, Beyond Good & Evil, Driver San Francisco, F1 2010 (don't think this will be in the pack), From Dust, Might & Magic Heroes VI, Splinter Cell Conviction, Rayman Origins

Victoria Franchise Bundle - $99.99 (placeholder price) - Victoria, Victoria II & DLC, Victoria II: A House Divided expansion pack
 
Jurassic Park kann ich jeden nur vor warnen und abraten.
Hab ich letzte Archivements Hunt ercraftet und dann für das Archivement gespielt. Es war neben SpaceChem der größte Scheiß, den ich zu der Hunt gespielt habe und auch eines der wenigen Spiele, welches ich direkt nach aufpoppen des Archivements wieder gelöscht habe (bei den meisten sage ich mir, lass sie drauf, mangelt dir ja nun wirklich nicht an Speicher und wer weiß, wann du sie mal wieder zocken magst.)

Jap. Da liegt ein himmelweiter Unterschied in Qualität zwischen "The Walking Dead" und "Jurassic Park"
 
Naja, was HL: E3 oder HL3 betrifft, ist es mir lieber, dass sich Valve schön viel Zeit lässt. Bisher hat Valve eben nicht nur die Quali ausgemacht, sondern dass sie sich auch immer etwas einfallen lassen haben. Mit den Episoden (die zwar cool waren) sind sie etwas davon abgekommen. Nun bewegen sie sich offensichtlich wieder mehr in die Richtung, dass sie nur was rausbringen, das auch neu und interessant ist und nicht einfach ein (wenn auch gutes) Sequel. Denn selbst gute Sequels nutzen sich irgendwann ab. Also selbst wenn CoD immernoch gut wäre hätte man es irgendwann gesehen :v:
 
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